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121Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Mon Jan 27 2020, 18:34

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just when you thought the season couldn't get any worse  Rolling Eyes

122Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 13:09

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
From Nixon.

Bolton. Hopeful of taking Kean Bryan from Sheff U

123Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 14:39

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:From Nixon.

Bolton. Hopeful of taking Kean Bryan from Sheff U

124Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 14:59

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
With Bunney just being a couple of weeks away from playing, I'm wondering if Hill is thinking of using Bryan as a midfielder and standby left back - or that he thinks Bunney ain't good enough perhaps?

It would be good if he could use him in midfield though- we'd have a pretty strong team that could start winning a few games IMO.

125Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 15:13

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Never heard of him.

126Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 15:19

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Never heard of him.
Surprising, as he speaks highly of you.

127Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 15:42

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Read he used to be a box to box midfielder but was converted to centre back.

128Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Thu Jan 30 2020, 17:35

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
In Hills latest Prematch blog he described as a rolls Royce, saying he can play left midfield too

129Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 13:43

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just been reading the BN deadline day live and people keep asking about Zach Clough.

Can't see much happening today, sounds like Weir may go which is not great loss and Jordan Boon has gone to Atherton Colls on a work experience loan.

Linked with Omar Beckles from Shrewsbury as well (he's another CB)

130Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 13:47

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just been reading the BN deadline day live and people keep asking about Zach Clough.

Can't see much happening today, sounds like Weir may go which is not great loss and Jordan Boon has gone to Atherton Colls on a work experience loan.

Linked with Omar Beckles from Shrewsbury as well (he's another CB)
I've been listening to talkSport deadline day special, and there was no mention of Boon going to Atherton Colls. Outrageous.

131Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 14:24

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just been reading the BN deadline day live and people keep asking about Zach Clough.

Can't see much happening today, sounds like Weir may go which is not great loss and Jordan Boon has gone to Atherton Colls on a work experience loan.

Linked with Omar Beckles from Shrewsbury as well (he's another CB)
I wish Zach Clough would just go away.
Beckles has been around the lower leagues for a while and is "competent" - not as athletic as Zouma but positionally good at the back which has certainly been a problem recently. Thing is I've seen him play for Shrewsbury which the highest level he's played at - but at left back, not as a CB or defensive mid where he cut his teeth. 
He's been playing at left back for the last 2 seasons.
If we do get him, I'm dying to see how this lot are going to line up.

132Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 14:39

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Benny Ashley-Seal from Wolves is another rumour as is the possible return of Bridcutt.


UPDATE: Ashley-Seal gone to Accrington.

133Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 16:26

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
signed a left winger on loan from Spurs - Anthony Georgiou.

134Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 17:08

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:signed a left winger on loan from Spurs - Anthony Georgiou.
Six month deal.

135Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 17:19

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Let's hope for another two or three.

136Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 17:20

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:signed a left winger on loan from Spurs - Anthony Georgiou.
Six month deal.
Makes sense seeing as Stoke said no to Verlinden coming back.

Still trying to get over Antonee Robinson signing for Inter in a 10 million move.

137Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 18:28

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
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Still trying to get over Antonee Robinson signing for Inter in a 10 million move.

Looks like it was just a dream:

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138Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 18:29

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:signed a left winger on loan from Spurs - Anthony Georgiou.
Six month deal.
Makes sense seeing as Stoke said no to Verlinden coming back.

Still trying to get over Antonee Robinson signing for Inter in a 10 million move.tits 
Reports saying it's gone tits up ?

139Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 21:38

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Not a bad window, Nsiala, Fleming, Bryan, Georgiou, Delaney and Mellis, happy with that lot.

140Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Fri Jan 31 2020, 21:57

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I've not heard of any of them.

141Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 01:20

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Not a bad window, Nsiala, Fleming, Bryan, Georgiou, Delaney and Mellis, happy with that lot.
Plus Hamilton from Manure and they've signed Faal and the non-league kid for future development.
The way I see it they're a mixture of fringe players at successful clubs and players that Hill and Flitcroft know from the past who have fallen out of favour.

Thing is we have a full squad now and there's a lot of potential so it will all come down to how Hill and Flitcroft shape them into a team.
Theoretically that will take a few weeks but I'm not sure if we have a few weeks if they think we can avoid relegation so it should be interesting.
At least they did something in the transfer window.

142Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 08:51

Ten Bobsworth


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Not a bad window, Nsiala, Fleming, Bryan, Georgiou, Delaney and Mellis, happy with that lot.
The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades



143Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 09:15

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thankfully no Clough, but I'd definitely have had Bridcutt back, however we may be OK without him now.

144Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 12:42

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Not a bad window, Nsiala, Fleming, Bryan, Georgiou, Delaney and Mellis, happy with that lot.

You're easily pleased then Martin1

Anyone any idea about what the plan is?

We hear about 10 year plans and 'Moneyball' but this transfer window doesn't show any sign of those to me.

We have Fleming (left back), Nsiala, Bryan (both centre backs) Hamilton (midfield) and the Cyprus winger - all on loan...

...who have replaced Chickson, Earl, Wright, Birdcut and the Stoke winger.

Personally I think the teams been weakened but we are where we are and have to cut our cloth accordingly in the loan market.

Our transfers in are bad boy Mellis (he's been trouble wherever he's been and apparently is awaiting a court date I believe) - it looks to me that Mansfield were happy to get shut of him, Deleaney who Hill knew from Rochdale, Faal, from tier seven football and poor old Buckley (oh and that kid from Blackpool who has gone on loan to Bamber Bridge!).

I can't see any obvious signs of Moneyball and if anything (with the Deleney signing) it looks to me as though Hill has a big say in signings, still.  So what 'green shoots' of a season has Kenyon's Moneyball achieved?

I'm not having a pop, although it may read that way, I'm just trying to understand where we are going because I can't see it based on what's happened during the whole of January starting with the mass clear out, the Hill rant about not being on the same page, the throwing away of any hopes of staying up by wrecking the defence and achieving just one solitary point in the whole month and now this apparent random bunch of signings seemingly based on no coherent strategy.

It doesn't really matter much this season as we are already relegated (theoretically we aren't but realistically we are) but it looks as though all but possibly Nsiala of the loan players are wanted back at their own club so we aren't going to gain anything on those players, Hill doesn't rate our youth's skill from the academy and our Moneyball so far amounts to a kid now at Bamber Bridge, a striker who can't even get into the bare bones match day squad, a player with 'issues' throughout his career and a player Hill already knew.

Next season may not be a push over as many people seem to think it might - the club is already planning for reduced attendance by closing the upper tiers!

Hope I'm wrong.

145Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 13:15

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'm not sure what plan you think should be in place when we're struggling to put 11 men on the pitch, and having to find them from a pool of free agents and loans.

I doubt Pep or Klopp could do much better if they were managing in the same circumstances.

146Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 14:01

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm not sure what plan you think should be in place when we're struggling to put 11 men on the pitch, and having to find them from a pool of free agents and loans.

I doubt Pep or Klopp could do much better if they were managing in the same circumstances.

It wasn't me that was talking about 10 year plans and Moneyball though - that was the clubs manager presumably talking about the clubs recruitment strategy for this and future transfer windows.

I'm just saying I couldn't see anything that happened in our signings in this window (both permanent and loans) that matched what was being said - can you?

147Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 14:57

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
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It wasn't me that was talking about 10 year plans and Moneyball though - that was the clubs manager presumably talking about the clubs recruitment strategy for this and future transfer windows.

I'm just saying I couldn't see anything that happened in our signings in this window (both permanent and loans) that matched what was being said - can you?

As our esteemed journalist pointed out yesterday, we won't see the moneyball recruitment system until the Summer, but you won't have read it as a staunch Iles detractor.

148Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 15:16

Sluffy

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It wasn't me that was talking about 10 year plans and Moneyball though - that was the clubs manager presumably talking about the clubs recruitment strategy for this and future transfer windows.

I'm just saying I couldn't see anything that happened in our signings in this window (both permanent and loans) that matched what was being said - can you?

As our esteemed journalist pointed out yesterday, we won't see the moneyball recruitment system until the Summer, but you won't have read it as a staunch Iles detractor.

Ah, so that means we've been paying Kenyon for a full season as a consultant to sit on his hands and do absolutely nothing until the summer - that makes perfect sense.

Carry on believing everything Iles says - it is far easier to do that than think for yourself.

149Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 17:09

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
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Ah, so that means we've been paying Kenyon for a full season as a consultant to sit on his hands and do absolutely nothing until the summer - that makes perfect sense.

Carry on believing everything Iles says - it is far easier to do that than think for yourself.

Well as he's on the inside as far as info goes, I think he's far more reliable than you.

150Transfer rumours ! - Page 5 Empty Re: Transfer rumours ! on Sat Feb 01 2020, 18:52

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:It wasn't me that was talking about 10 year plans and Moneyball though - that was the clubs manager presumably talking about the clubs recruitment strategy for this and future transfer windows.

I'm just saying I couldn't see anything that happened in our signings in this window (both permanent and loans) that matched what was being said - can you?


The start of the 10 year plan is to presumably have a team ready to compete in League 2 next season, and be ready for a proper promotion push the season after that.

And that's fine with me.

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