Is this more right wing crap...

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote: At least Assad isn't a raving fcuking loony.

Assad is a raving fucking loony RT, he's massacring thousands of his own people every day.

Assad is a qualified Doctor who was educated in the UK. When his father ran the country, Syria was referred to by the west as the Axis of Evil. Assad brought in many reforms but it isn't enough for the hardliners. The problem is that there is no appeasement with the fundamentalists. It's either their way or the highway.

Assad has no time for the rebels and has no intention of handing over the reigns to a bunch of loony toons. It was no different with Iran, when the Shah was overthrown we had years of Ayatollah Khomeini ( the nutjob who declared a Fatwah on Salman Rushdie )

You simply cannot reason with these kind of religious fanatics because there is absolutely no common ground whatsoever.

If Assad falls in Syria who knows what the new regime has planned for the west ? Especially when you consider we have by and large kept out of it.

https://youtu.be/aGBfYoldZQ4

"President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

Hipster_Nebula wrote:George Bush was a religious fanatic.

"President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

seriously alarming.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

He's as power crazy as any other dictator and anybody that massacres their own people is a loony in my book, fear of what could come next doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue this massacre. For all we know he could be replaced by somebody who brings peace to the country, there's no way of knowing.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:George Bush was a religious fanatic.

"President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

seriously alarming.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

I suppose he's just "talking" to the right "God"

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

He's as power crazy as any other dictator and anybody that massacres their own people is a loony in my book, fear of what could come next doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue this massacre. For all we know he could be replaced by somebody who brings peace to the country, there's no way of knowing.

well...

I think your wrong, people are pissed off due to his apparent want of an alliance with the west. this is a good thing for me, forget the people he is 'murdering', they are extremist religious idiots in the first place, the world is less dangerous without people like that.

im not saying the way he is going on about it is particularity right, but its the lesser of the 2 evils for me...

lets face it, his government gets overthrown, suddenly you have a bunch of religious zealots in there who want to kill everybody who does not live by the 'true' word of Islam...

im sure Iran would 'borrow' them a few nukes

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

He's as power crazy as any other dictator and anybody that massacres their own people is a loony in my book, fear of what could come next doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue this massacre. For all we know he could be replaced by somebody who brings peace to the country, there's no way of knowing.

well...

I think your wrong, people are pissed off due to his apparent want of an alliance with the west. this is a good thing for me, forget the people he is 'murdering', they are extremist religious idiots in the first place, the world is less dangerous without people like that.

im not saying the way he is going on about it is particularity right, but its the lesser of the 2 evils for me...

lets face it, his government gets overthrown, suddenly you have a bunch of religious zealots in there who want to kill everybody who does not live by the 'true' word of Islam...

im sure Iran would 'borrow' them a few nukes

Why do you say the rebels are religous extremists? They're fighting to overthrow Assad, that is their aim, they aren't fighting because they want Sharia law brought in or anything.

There's a huge difference between people who are religous and people who are extremists. There's been no evidence (that I've seen) to suggest that the Free Syria Army is extremist, Im not sure where you've got that from.

I may be wrong and have missed something though so let me know.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

He's as power crazy as any other dictator and anybody that massacres their own people is a loony in my book, fear of what could come next doesn't mean he should be allowed to continue this massacre. For all we know he could be replaced by somebody who brings peace to the country, there's no way of knowing.

well...

I think your wrong, people are pissed off due to his apparent want of an alliance with the west. this is a good thing for me, forget the people he is 'murdering', they are extremist religious idiots in the first place, the world is less dangerous without people like that.

im not saying the way he is going on about it is particularity right, but its the lesser of the 2 evils for me...

lets face it, his government gets overthrown, suddenly you have a bunch of religious zealots in there who want to kill everybody who does not live by the 'true' word of Islam...

im sure Iran would 'borrow' them a few nukes

Why do you say the rebels are religous extremists? They're fighting to overthrow Assad, that is their aim, they aren't fighting because they want Sharia law brought in or anything.

There's a huge difference between people who are religous and people who are extremists. There's been no evidence (that I've seen) to suggest that the Free Syria Army is extremist, Im not sure where you've got that from.

I may be wrong and have missed something though so let me know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army#Relationship_with_Islamists

bwfc1874 wrote:

See what you mean, maybe there is an Al Qaeda influence, but most of them are fighting to overthrow Assad, not to takeover and start attacking the West.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

See what you mean, maybe there is an Al Qaeda influence, but most of them are fighting to overthrow Assad, not to takeover and start attacking the West.

One follows the other as sure as night follows day. The hardliners see the Christian West as Kaffirs ( non-believers )

It is no different than the Crusades. Richard the Lionheart and his holy war. Times have changed, and not for the better.



Well said Rt, absolutely spot on.

'Benevolent Uncle' Bob Mugabe is one of the biggest tyrants in the modern era. He has carried out ethnic cleansing against the minority Matabele tribe in Zimbabwe and forced all the five generations of white farmers out of the country. How come he is allowed to play God in Zimbabwe ?

The same happened in Uganda. The British Government were complicit in allowing Idi Amin to oust the democratically elected Milton Obote. Look at the result, over 20,000 Ugandan Asians given a month to leave the country.

It's no good wringing our hands over Syria when the same thing is being played out in Africa on a daily basis.

The bottom line is that we should keep our fcuking noses out of other countries business and spend our time and resources on fixing broken Britain.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

See what you mean, maybe there is an Al Qaeda influence, but most of them are fighting to overthrow Assad, not to takeover and start attacking the West.

One follows the other as sure as night follows day. The hardliners see the Christian West as Kaffirs ( non-believers )

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

See what you mean, maybe there is an Al Qaeda influence, but most of them are fighting to overthrow Assad, not to takeover and start attacking the West.

One follows the other as sure as night follows day. The hardliners see the Christian West as Kaffirs ( non-believers )

How can you be so sure? There's no evidence to support this.

I don't understand how you can assume that the rebels are extremists purely on the basis of them being from an Arab country, and wanting to overthrow a man massacring half the population. Not everybody from the middle east is automatically a religious nut who wants to blow themselves up.

I never said we should try and fix Syria; only that Assad is a psychopath; clearly he is.

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

See what you mean, maybe there is an Al Qaeda influence, but most of them are fighting to overthrow Assad, not to takeover and start attacking the West.

One follows the other as sure as night follows day. The hardliners see the Christian West as Kaffirs ( non-believers )

How can you be so sure? There's no evidence to support this.

I don't understand how you can assume that the rebels are extremists purely on the basis of them being from an Arab country, and wanting to overthrow a man massacring half the population. Not everybody from the middle east is automatically a religious nut who wants to blow themselves up.

I never said we should try and fix Syria; only that Assad is a psychopath; clearly he is.

he clearly is 'Lacking emotionally'

however, id rather have him as an ally than a group of poeple who dont like the western world very much.

I dont care if you regard them as 'nutjobs' or not... they are Arabs and against the west, that's enough reason for me not to like them...

Reebok Trotter wrote:The problem with a lot of world leaders is that they feel to see the importance and significance of history. You would have thought that after Korea and Vietnam the Yanks would have cold feet when it comes to ' liberating ' other countries.

What exactly has the death of Saddam achieved ? The Shia and Sunny Muslims are still at one another's throats jostling for power in Baghdad.

The Sunny folk tend to live a more sedentary lifestyle than their Shia brothers but they are not averse to letting off the odd bomb to let folk know that they are still alive and kicking.

Who is to say that Assad's vision of Syria isn't the right one ? It all depends on which side of the political fence you sit.

It's the same in Afghanistan. Now we have the green on blue attacks. We probably have no real business for being in there in the first place.

Other than offering humanitarian aid I can't see any legitimate reason for occupying the place. If the people of Afghanistan truly want liberating from the Taliban then I would suggest it would be better if they did it themselves. Just look at what happened to Gaddafi.