Norpig wrote:If you ever do make it to the Unibol you are more than welcome to come and sit next to me in the Lofthouse Stand
You can do better Keegan.
Norpig wrote:If you ever do make it to the Unibol you are more than welcome to come and sit next to me in the Lofthouse Stand
Norpig wrote:He doesn't want to go anywhere near your box Nat, it's seen better days.
Natasha Whittam wrote:
You can do better Keegan.
Norpig wrote:He doesn't want to go anywhere near your box Nat, it's seen better days.
T.R.O.Y. wrote:Sluffy - Uk racism is systemic, the movement is about reaching equality in society. It’s addressing why having a foreign name makes it less likely to get responses on a job application or why black students attainment is more likely to be underestimated, and their levels drop over years in education.
Systemic racism is not suffered by white people in this country. Simple as that.
You may not think the campaign will be effective, but what are you basing that on? can you name any event that has done more to raise awareness of these issues?
gloswhite wrote:It raises the question Sluffy, as this is the latest in a long line of attempts to raise the profile of the problem, why hasn't something of consequence been done so far. I feel its because the problem is deep rooted and society as a whole doesn't seem able to either accept it, for whatever reason, or to plan far enough ahead to resolve it.
Education is part of the answer but enforcing the law is another and we have a plethora of laws that underpin the fact that RACISM IS ILLEGAL. If the law was properly enforced and people's rights were upheld - and seen to be upheld - it will go a long way towards resolving the situation.T.R.O.Y. wrote:Yes educating is the answer, nobody's arguing that - hence the (enlightening) conversation about British history at the moment, for too long we've whitewashed the crimes of the Empire.
I was contending your point that racism goes both ways because systemic racism does not in this country - and that is preventing equal opportunity.
Very true. Excellent piece here regarding your point.T.R.O.Y. wrote:I agree with you, but systemic racism would be difficult/impossible to prosecute. So i'm not sure the law alone can be relied on in this instance.
There has to be a change in attitudes supported by the state, a start would be to make sure every child is given a proper history of the British Empire its impacts and damage across the world.
Good point, but as I frequently have to point out to he-who-must-be-obeyed there is often more than one answer and tackling something as complex as racism will need addressing from all sorts angles.T.R.O.Y. wrote:I agree with you, but systemic racism would be difficult/impossible to prosecute. So i'm not sure the law alone can be relied on in this instance.
wanderlust wrote: That is why in the UK we need to look at why deaths in police custody are in line with % of population for white people but black people account for 8% of such deaths despite only being 3% of the population. It isn't just random chance.
wanderlust wrote:
Good point, but as I frequently have to point out to he-who-must-be-obeyed there is often more than one answer and tackling something as complex as racism will need addressing from all sorts angles.
Come on Sluffy - I know there must be a sense of humour somewhere in there? Anyhow, I was referring to my dutch boyfriend Dick Wippa.Sluffy wrote:
Really is there any need for comments like this?
wanderlust wrote:Come on Sluffy - I know there must be a sense of humour somewhere in there? Anyhow, I was referring to my dutch boyfriend Dick Wippa.Sluffy wrote:
Really is there any need for comments like this?
OK although no "abuse" is intended.Sluffy wrote:
No my sense of humour has been eroded away after years of abuse from you and one or two others.
I didn't laugh when you complimented Norpig on his avatar either.
As I've told you before I don't come on here for abuse.
You don't seem to have grasped that yet.
About time you did.
wanderlust wrote:OK although no "abuse" is intended.Sluffy wrote:
No my sense of humour has been eroded away after years of abuse from you and one or two others.
I didn't laugh when you complimented Norpig on his avatar either.
As I've told you before I don't come on here for abuse.
You don't seem to have grasped that yet.
About time you did.
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