Black Lives Matter
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142 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 08:55
Guest
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Sluffy, I asked you to justify your statement it was a fair comment, you then openly admit to not having the required experience or knowledge to make that statement. I’m not confused about anything, I’ve been perfectly clear while you reply with ‘Eh?’ And you’re usual talk around the houses when you don’t know where to go on a topic.
Last post on this this, please don’t drag this out even further.
Last post on this this, please don’t drag this out even further.
143 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 09:08
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Very good.wanderlust wrote:Over 2 million views for this cracking poem
144 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 12:15
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
I wonder how many people have actually thought about his comments. its very good.wanderlust wrote:Over 2 million views for this cracking poem
146 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 13:18
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
I knew you'd flag that up but it was linked from a website so it's more a case of social media following me than the other way roundSluffy wrote:
Why do you care, you don't even follow social media!
Being a little bit more seriously though, she clearly trolls deliberately to raise her profile from which she earns her living.
If people simply didn't react to her, she would have soon faded from view - the trouble is that social media allows everyone and their dog to have their say, and they do!
No doubt she'll turn up on Instagram or whatever it is people flock to these days.
Hopefully she'll disappear from view now.
147 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 13:22
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
...and a good performance too I thought. How he kept a straight face when delivering some of those lines I'll never know.gloswhite wrote:
I wonder how many people have actually thought about his comments. its very good.
Well done CharlesTDale
148 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 13:39
Sluffy
Admin
T.R.O.Y. wrote:Sluffy, I asked you to justify your statement it was a fair comment, you then openly admit to not having the required experience or knowledge to make that statement. I’m not confused about anything, I’ve been perfectly clear while you reply with ‘Eh?’ And you’re usual talk around the houses when you don’t know where to go on a topic.
Last post on this this, please don’t drag this out even further.
I've been abundantly clear and consistent on what I've said.
The Secretary of State for Education stated the curriculum covers the British Empire and that children learn the good and bad of it.
I've not seen one comment from anyone in the history education profession, since his statement, disputing that.
The article Bonce linked to was an opinion from a black anti-racist activist who is a professor in sociology and has been actively campaigning on racism long before the George Floyd murder - and is taken from a national papers 'comment'/opinion section - being the very same section where you went off on one in respect of the Irish woman's 'learned' opinion about how the British government went wrong on dealing with the pandemic, when it turned out she actually knew nothing about it and was (iirc?) someone who had a history degree (or something like that) as the basis of her background knowledge - something not relevant at all! (The Irish woman originally tweeted her comments but they were thereafter published in this papers opinion section. I assume that you do nor have to specifically contact the paper for your opinion to be published and that they are sourced from all other media?).
Think if you like this 'opinion'/comment section being the forerunner of Twitter/Facebook, etc, where anyone with a bee in their bonnet can sound off and people taking what they say as 'fact' rather than what it is - their personal opinions and beliefs - particularly if the paper, as in the case of the Irish woman, is sourcing some of their opinions from social media in the first place!
Jason Arday - this is his previous cannon of work
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/2146695246_Jason_Arday
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/author/jason-arday
The Irish woman was proved to be incorrect in what she claimed.
So far no professional educational body has rushed to back up Mr Arday's views on the curriculum yet and contradict the Secretary of State for Education's statement.
I stand completely by what I've said, The Secretary of State for Education made fair comment, in which he states history teaches the good and bad and that I am happy for this to continue to be the case.
How on earth could you turn that in to yet another argument?
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150 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:03
Sluffy
Admin
boltonbonce wrote:Dr Arday is a racist?
Thank you for pointing out my slight typo mistake.
I have now corrected it.
151 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:07
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
No problem. Thought it didn't look right.Sluffy wrote:
Thank you for pointing out my slight typo mistake.
I have now corrected it.
152 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:14
Guest
Guest
Said all I need to Sluffy if you don’t get it, that’s not my problem. I’m not going to keep repeating myself when it’s clear to all.
153 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:23
Sluffy
Admin
boltonbonce wrote:No problem. Thought it didn't look right.Sluffy wrote:
Thank you for pointing out my slight typo mistake.
I have now corrected it.
You knew it wasn't right and was clearly a mistake on my part - probably due once again to my word blindness / dyslexia I have.
I often miss the word 'not' out of a sentence for some inexplicable reason unknown to even myself - which completely changes the meaning to the opposite of what I intended to say - similarly in this case I missed out the prefix word 'anti'.
It was abundantly clear from the links I posted to the gentleman that he is clearly an active anti-racist.
154 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:29
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Yes, it was a mistake, which I pointed out to allow you to correct it. My bad.
155 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:34
Sluffy
Admin
T.R.O.Y. wrote:Said all I need to Sluffy if you don’t get it, that’s not my problem. I’m not going to keep repeating myself when it’s clear to all.
There's only you who who seems to have had a problem with what I said???
I even asked you to clarify what I'd said that you had some issue with so I could explain things more clearly but you chose to argue on instead.
So it clearly is YOUR issue and your continued choice to manufacture arguments with me over such is YOUR problem.
This really needs to stop.
156 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:39
Sluffy
Admin
boltonbonce wrote:Yes, it was a mistake, which I pointed out to allow you to correct it. My bad.
I thanked you for pointing it out and have explained how and why it happened - why has that seemed to have upset you?
I apologise if that is the case as there was clearly no intent on my part to do so.
157 Re: Black Lives Matter Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:49
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
I'm not upset. It seems we've misinterpreted each others posts. Probably my fault. Apologies.Sluffy wrote:
I thanked you for pointing it out and have explained how and why it happened - why has that seemed to have upset you?
I apologise if that is the case as there was clearly no intent on my part to do so.
158 Re: Black Lives Matter Tue Jun 23 2020, 05:00
159 Re: Black Lives Matter Wed Jun 24 2020, 14:34
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Always thought Tony Livesey was a bit of a twat but he got my respect after I listened to this.
160 Re: Black Lives Matter Wed Jun 24 2020, 16:28
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Very impressive, I didn't know he had that in him.wanderlust wrote:Always thought Tony Livesey was a bit of a twat but he got my respect after I listened to this.
I don't think it could have been put better.
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