At the end of the day people spread the virus - it is as simple as that.
Again I dip into ww and post up two posts, one from a poster from the north and one from a poster from the south the emphasis this and contrast from individuals perspective why London/the south is seemingly dealing with the virus much better than the north has -Peelyfleet
"I'm fairy sure Tier 3 isn't going to be enough for many areas, if the govnt want the R rate to get below 1.
Unless folk change their behaviour.
It's not happening from what I can see
I went to the BP Garage at chequerbent last night - about 10 in, no distancing - not one had a mask on, the guy serving had it round his chin. I was in a Garage in worsley a few hours before - same there.
I know of a welfare officer at a local kids football club who sent their son into school despite him being told to isolate for 14 days by the club ( tracing didnt get in touch so "I'm just following the guidelines")
I know of a supermarket area manager who lied about where he'd been on holiday to his employees so he didnt have to quarantine, and could go into work.
I know of mates who have holiday booked over half term out of the area - they're all still going.
It's not going to stop spreading at the same rate, unless we reduce the amount of close contacts we make.
If we did this off our own back we wouldnt need any restrictions at all.
Folk make excuses for themselves, they think their actions will have no bearing".http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/90620-coronavirus/?do=findComment&comment=2094486Jol_BWFC
"That's really bad. Hopefully you've seen the worst examples and it isn't like that everywhere.
My experiences down in that there (this here) London: I go to the supermarket - everyone wears a mask and makes an effort to be socially distanced. When I go to work, I go on the train and tube - everyone wears a mask (and when I travel, which is at the end of rush hour, every other seat is left empty). I fill the car up with petrol - everyone wears a mask. I meet up with friends - we do it at a park or in a garden. I might be out for drinks with mates tomorrow - we will be going to an outdoor venue and there will be 6 or fewer of us. It's shit, but that's what we need to do.
I know a load of people here who either tested positive or showed the symptoms back in March-May. It was rife. But I know of only 3 or 4 who have shown symptoms or tested positively in the last 3 or 4 months. They all self isolated immediately, until the test results came back (a couple positive and a couple negative)".http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/90620-coronavirus/?do=findComment&comment=2094522
And just to show that Londoners are not all saints either this today from Transport for London -
12:46112,000 stopped for not wearing face coverings, says TfL boss
Transport for London (TfL) boss Andy Byford says 112,000 people were stopped on public transport in the city from 4 July to 5 October for not wearing face coverings.
Messages are on display across the network reminding people to wear them over their mouth and nose - unless they are medically exempt.
It's mandatory to wear coverings on the public transport network - and that includes inside stations, in taxis and private hire vehicles.
Byford also told a TfL board meeting today that another bus driver in the capital has died from coronavirus.
He said: "That brings the total number of colleagues who've died during the pandemic to 45, including bus drivers. It breaks my heart.
"I know it does resonate personally with you, Sadiq (London mayor Sadiq Khan), to have lost another colleague.
"We are putting every effort into making sure that lessons learned from the early part of the pandemic are embedded and we're putting a huge focus on making sure that we're fully prepared for the second wave which does appear to becoming apparent."https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-54626928
And that remember is just the number they have seen to speak to, how many others must there have been?
Public behaviour by at least a hard core of people simply will not change as many believe and correctly so in the main, that even if they caught the virus in simple will not effect them, so why give up seeing your mates and having fun to protect someone's doddery old grandad you never even knew existed in the first place.
We need overwhelming public co-operation to keep the infections down and we (and most other country's in the world) simply don't have it.
You can have the best Track and Trace system in the world but you simply can't police the whole populations behaviour unless you are in an authoritarian state such as China.
It's as simple as that.
In reply to Wanderlust, compulsory temperature testing doesn't pick up people with Covid, who are contagious, who are asymptomatic and thus it gives a false sense of safety and why it is not relied on.
It does pick up on those showing symptoms but the majority of cases are asymptomatic.