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Man "Beheaded/hacked" to death in London.

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aaron_bwfc

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One of the blokes arrested for the murder of the solider last week was approached by MI5! Shocked


MI5 asked Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo if he wanted to work for them about six months before the killing, a childhood friend has said.

Abu Nusaybah told BBC Newsnight his friend - one of two men arrested after Drummer Lee Rigby's murder in south-east London on Wednesday - had rejected the approach from the security service.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22664468

Copper Dragon

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

aaron_bwfc wrote:One of the blokes arrested for the murder of the solider last week was approached by MI5! Shocked


MI5 asked Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo if he wanted to work for them about six months before the killing, a childhood friend has said.

Abu Nusaybah told BBC Newsnight his friend - one of two men arrested after Drummer Lee Rigby's murder in south-east London on Wednesday - had rejected the approach from the security service.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22664468

And then Abu Nusaybah was arrested directly after the interview whilst still inside the BBC building!

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Sluffy wrote:Could be nothing but this is breaking news now -

BBC Twitter - Essex Police say "incident has occurred" on passenger flight from Lahore. Plane diverted to Stansted under RAF escort



RAF Typhoon jets have been launched to investigate an incident involving a civilian aircraft within UK airspace, the Ministry of Defence has said.

A Pakistan International Airlines plane has been diverted from Manchester to Stansted Airport, a Manchester Airport spokesman said.

An Essex Police spokeswoman added: "An incident has occurred on an aircraft. Police and partners are responding."

The BBC understands that the plane has now landed in Stansted.

The plane reportedly left Lahore at 09:35 local time. It was due in at Manchester at 1400 BST.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22658979



Both from Nelson Lancashire but I wasn't there your honour.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22671946

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Not sure how many murders will be committed today, but I'm fairly sure that the press won't be writing "Christian white male" as a prefix to any of the reports.
Aren't all the paedos in the press Christian white males? That could make an interesting "religious" story.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

But are the killings in the name of their god?

were the sex acts committed in the name of christianity?

What we're talking about here is religion inspiring people to do bad deeds, not people who do bad things and just happen to have gone to church once or twice.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:But are the killings in the name of their god?

were the sex acts committed in the name of christianity?


Yes - in the world of media it could be argued they were. For as you have already written, God is the construct of man i.e. what predicates their belief structure rightly or wrongly as it was in the case of these dickheads who killed the soldier.
Do you think that Gary Glitter believed he was doing something wrong? I don't - I think he rationalised what he was doing so that in his head it was Ok to do it. Similarly, these twats believed they were doing something in the name of Islam although I suspect they had "issues".
In both cases, their constructs were out of synch with societal values including Islamic values.
If I believe that the only way to save Bolton Wanderers is to top my missus, I could do it and claim that I did it in the name of BWFC and the press could have a field day, branding BWFC fans as crazed murderers - although they wouldn't as BWFC are predominantly their core audience whereas Muslims are an easy target in our society.
Understand that the media write stories to stimulate the already existing prejudices of their core market and whilst the Telegraph might take a different angle from the Guardian on certain issues, the genuine concerns of the populace regarding e.g. overpopulation, immigration, jobs and cultural differences touch many people in different ways according to their experience and circumstances so race/religion (and our press doesn't differentiate between the two) is always going to be a seller for lazy journalists.
And we lap it up without looking past the circumstances of the individuals involved because it's a lot easier to put people into boxes and label them accordingly.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I had written a reply.

but honestly criticising certain things is very dangerous in todays world.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I had written a reply.

but honestly criticising certain things is very dangerous in todays world.

True. But I'm prepared to say that the two suspects are sick individuals with mental problems using Islam as an excuse to act criminally. Freud would have a field day.

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

wanderlust wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:I had written a reply.

but honestly criticising certain things is very dangerous in todays world.

True. But I'm prepared to say that the two suspects are sick individuals with mental problems using Islam as an excuse to act criminally. Freud would have a field day.

:agree:

Bernard Dennis Park

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El Hadji Diouf
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I think it's two sick individuals with mental problems who have been brainwashed by Islam causing them to act criminally.

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

They are not 'brainwashed' by Islam, they are brainwashed by people 'in the name of Islam'.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

waynagain wrote:They are not 'brainwashed' by Islam, they are brainwashed by people 'in the name of Islam'.
..or attention-seeking manipulative tosspots as we call them.

Sluffy

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Another 'terrorist' attack -

A PRISON officer taken hostage by Islamic extremists was targeted because he was an ex-serviceman, the Mail can reveal.

The male officer is understood to have been stabbed during the four-hour stand off at HMP Full Sutton on Sunday, which is being treated as terrorism.

An email sent to all staff in the prison service says he was chosen by the three Muslim prisoners because of his links to the Armed Forces.

It linked the attack to the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich last week, who was killed by Muslim extremists.

Police have confirmed it is being investigated by counter-terrorism officers.

The email sent to staff says: "Three Muslim prisoners took an officer hostage in an office.

"Their demands indicated they supported radical Islamist extremism.

"The officer taken was an ex-serviceman and, throughout the incident, threats were made to kill him.

"All staff are reminded to remain vigilant to the increased risk of potential attacks on prison officers inspired by these and last Wednesday's events."

The men are said to have seized the officer after inmates were asked to pray for Lee Rigby, according to reports.


http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Prison-officer-taken-hostage-Islamic-extremists/story-19112322-detail/story.html#ixzz2Ua3Z86Yu

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