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Are Films Too Violent?

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21Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 19:34

Reebok Trotter

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NickFazer wrote:I don't find violent scenes disturbing but I, like most people, am able to separate make believe from reality. However, I am in my 40's and wasn't exposed to film or video game violence when an impressionable teenager, my opinion is that being desensitised to violence or porn for that matter does alter the behaviour of those exposed to it at a young age.

Also there is no actual reason to show graphic violent acts, it is more effective if the act is suggested rather than shown. In many ways this demonstrates a lack of imagination and talent on behalf of the film-maker.

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22Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 19:37

waynagain

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People are just looking for excuses. Films were MUCH more violent years ago. John Wayne must have killed a million Red Indians in his films, but you never heard about somebody going out and shooting a bunch of Red Indians after watching one of his films.

23Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 21:03

Natasha Whittam

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waynagain wrote:People are just looking for excuses. Films were MUCH more violent years ago.

Don't be silly. Films are much more graphic these days.

24Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 21:09

Hipster_Nebula

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Whats a film you've seen thats shocked you Nat?

25Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 21:12

Natasha Whittam

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Hipster_Nebula wrote:Whats a film you've seen thats shocked you Nat?


Machete was one, although admittedly I enjoyed it.

The other was the latest Resident Evil film.

26Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 21:19

Hipster_Nebula

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cartoon violence though isn't it.

I'd say things like Nil by Mouth were more shocking.

27Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 21:57

Natasha Whittam

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Hipster_Nebula wrote:cartoon violence though isn't it.

I'd say things like Nil by Mouth were more shocking.

Maybe. I think the worst scene I ever saw was in 'Wolf Creek' where some bloke purposely paralysed a victim by ripping out her spinal cord. Disgusting.

28Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Mon Jun 24 2013, 22:50

bwfc71

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Nope!

29Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Tue Jun 25 2013, 09:04

wanderlust

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
waynagain wrote:People are just looking for excuses. Films were MUCH more violent years ago.

Don't be silly. Films are much more graphic these days.

I wouldn't say so. Films were regularly banned in the 60s and 70s and even the "uncut" versions of mainstream blockbusters like Straw Dogs, Clockwork Orange and The Devils are still not considered broadcastable - or they have lost the edits made in the past. The difference is that audiences get to see a broader range of cinema these days if they look for it, although much of the old stuff is sanitised. There has always been extremely violent cinema - it's just that it wasn't available via mainstream outlets and tended to be labelled as "art cinema" - or porn - there were loads of snuff movies in the 70s and 80s until the clampdown. I watched an edited version of L'Age D'or recently which had edited out the slo-mo slicing open of an eyeball with a cutthroat razor - perhaps the most famous scene - and that was made way back in the early 1930s.
Much of of modern day violence in film is special effects which also makes a difference - Dali and Bunuel used a real eyeball and razor (and the snuff movies were live films of actual murders) so although the image quality isn't as good, there's no mistaking what was happening.

30Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Tue Jun 25 2013, 09:10

Soul Kitchen

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Reebok Trotter wrote:The Yanks are bloody obsessed with guns. Thousands of innocent lives are lost every year because of pathetic firearms legislation and all they can do is bleat about their right to bear arms.

A terrible indictment of a so-called superpower.

They want their guns cos they're a bunch of cowboys!

31Are Films Too Violent? - Page 2 Empty Re: Are Films Too Violent? Tue Jun 25 2013, 10:15

wanderlust

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The right to bear arms thing goes right back to the War of Independence but is maintained on the basis that when under threat I can either negotiate or warn off with my big weapon and I choose the weapon because if negotiations break down or the other party deceives me I've still got the big weapon so I'm less likely to get shafted. The principle is based on mistrust i.e. negotiation with a position of strength as a contingency.
The same logical justification was applied to the nuclear arms race for years and still is.
The original need for the right to bear arms (preparedness against a return to British Imperialism) has long since gone, but it's now firmly embedded in American culture and there's no way they'll ever give it up now.

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