Transfer rumours !

wanderlust wrote:

Of course. I've also considered that he could be doing a superb job. 
Both scenarios are complete speculation.

Not really. Evidence leans towards him being clueless.

He inherited a team full of Premier League players and couldn't even get us in the play-offs in his first season. Last season he was responsible for the worst start in our history.

His signings have been pisspoor at best, and there is less hope than in living memory.

Also WL, to follow on from Nat, doesn't he have the worst win percentage of any of our last 4 managers and, apart from a few months by OC in the Championship, they were all in a higher division.

I don't know the exact stats for DFs win rate, so I fully expect bwfc1874 to follow my post with the actual rate. Or any body else that has this stat. It would put this argument to bed at how DF is actually doing and contrary to WL would not be speculation.

Stats are here:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	19 October 1999	29 April 2007	370	153	114	103	41.35		1 FA Premier League Asia Trophy: 2005
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	30 April 2007	7 October 2007	14	3	7	4	21.43
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	25 October 2007	30 December 2009	97	27	45	26	27.55
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	8 January 2010	9 October 2012	126	42	24	60	33.33
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	23 October 2012		88	31	31	26	35.23

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BoltonTillIDie wrote:Stats are here:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	19 October 1999	29 April 2007	370	153	114	103	41.35		1 FA Premier League Asia Trophy: 2005
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	30 April 2007	7 October 2007	14	3	7	4	21.43
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	25 October 2007	30 December 2009	97	27	45	26	27.55
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	8 January 2010	9 October 2012	126	42	24	60	33.33
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	23 October 2012		88	31	31	26	35.23

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Pretty conclusive then! DF is the best manager we have had since Big Sam!

Those stats are no surprise really.
I'd take issue with "inheriting a team of premiership players". He inherited a team of championship players who had consistently lost for ages in two divisions. The only premiership thing about them was their wages.
He was brought in to make significant changes which he has done - over 20 players have been shown the door since he arrived.

I guess that win rate isn't bad seeing as it's against a backdrop of chopping and changing and allowing time for player integration and ...well basically finding out who their teammates are.

It would be good if he can improve that record even further this season but as always, we'll have to wait and see.

Fair dos I read those stats which are interesting, but remember all the other 3 managers plus Big Sams stats were in the Premier League facing the Man Utds, Chelsea's and not the Doncasters and Barnsleys. Ignoring the standard of the opposition DF has a slightly better win percentage than out last 3 managers.

Those are joke statistics, the closest Freedman's got to the Premier League is when he tunes into Sky Sports on a Sunday afternoon.

I'd go further than that and say DF will never manage in the Premier League and will make his decision to jump from Palace to us when they were in the Championship even more stupid now they have gone and cemented themselves as a Premier League side!

Money talks, I think we offered to pay him much more then he was getting at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Natasha Whittam wrote:He inherited a team full of Premier League players and couldn't even get us in the play-offs in his first season.

He put together a fantastic recovery from the mess he was handed by Coyle. Out of interest which of these overpaid ponces are premier league class then?

JAH wrote:Fair dos I read those stats which are interesting, but remember all the other 3 managers plus Big Sams stats were in the Premier League facing the Man Utds, Chelsea's and not the Doncasters and Barnsleys. Ignoring the standard of the opposition DF has a slightly better win percentage than out last 3 managers.

True but the other managers threw vast amounts of cash at the team whereas Freedman has been cutting expenditure since the day he was appointed. I guess it's not directly comparable apart from Coyle who had both expensive players and relegation.

See how Freedman does this season with a ten bob team.

bwfc1874 wrote:

He put together a fantastic recovery from the mess he was handed by Coyle. Out of interest which of these overpaid ponces are premier league class then?

Where did I say PL class?

BoltonTillIDie wrote:Money talks, I think we offered to pay him much more then he was getting at the time.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Absolutely spot on. Dougies contract was up at the end of the season and he had them in first position in the Championship. According to reports he was one of the lowest paid managers in the Championship on £100,000 per season. He approached the board and asked about his future and was told that no decision would be made until the end of the season when it was known where Palace would finish up. To compound the situation, Dougie wanted to keep Zaha but was told that he would be sold to United for £20 million and that Dougie would be given £1 million of the fee for new players.

It was a no-brainer really. I believe we offered him a 3 year deal on £500,000 per season and the rest is history.

Love him or hate him but a lot of Palace fans were genuinely sorry to see him go. Cheerful Charlie Chuckles ( Ian Holloway ) inherited Dougies team and took them to the Premiership via the play-offs but struggled due to lack of funds. Pulis did a great job in keeping them up against all odds but let us see if he can do it this season.

Clearly your comment about them being premier league players was a measure of their quality and as such Dougie should have got them into the play offs because they're of Premier League standard.

Semantics.

The class bit was implicit. 
"He inherited a team of players who hadn't got premiership class" somewhat undermines the dubious point being made.

Enquiry made for Murray according to Nixon. If they land Frazier Campbell I think we'll be in good shape, they reportedly want a million for him which I think is excessive for a player coming back from a knee injury.

After all these cutbacks and austerity it's good to see the club aiming a bit higher even if we don't get what we're after.

Bolton Wanderers are reported to have made an approach for Crystal Palace striker Glenn Murray. Former Palace boss Dougie Freedman is on the look out for a new striker to help fire Bolton towards a push for the Premier League and reports claim he has targeted Murray. The 31-year-old has the credentials to help Bolton mount a promotion push after he fired home 31 goals as the Eagles made the Championship play-offs on their way to securing a place in the top flight. Murray has only just returned to full fitness after missing the vast majority of last season with a serious knee injury, and the arrival of Fraizer Campell has cast doubt on his future at the club. Freedman now senses an opportunity to strike, but allowing club legend Murray to leave for Bolton would not be a popular decision with the Eagles faithful.

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31 and missed the vast majority of last season with a serious knee injury.

Pardon me for not masturbating furiously over this news.....