Should we be bombing the IS?

i agree that something needs to be done, they're too dangerous to be ignored. I just think that long term if we 'blow them away' it's just going to be more ammunition for these nutters to radicalise more people and nothing improves.

Guess what? They have beards and they don't drink!!!!!!!! 

gloswhite wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:I've said it all earlier that we should blow them away but beware of the backlash at home! How simple is that?
What excuse have they got for their actins? Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

Apologies SK, I seem to have read over that one. It was the comment that you didn't want to pass comments that I picked up on.
At least we are in agreement with what should be done

No probs.

Soul Kitchen wrote:Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

WW1 and WW2 - Christian killing Christian.

Not much difference really.

Soul Kitchen wrote:Guess what? They have beards and they don't drink!!!!!!!! 

They have beards, well some do, and they don't drink. Ooops. All those along Edgeware Road drinking, smoking and with obvious "Women" in their company have a reason? It's the ones who tell the killers to kill that never seem to be brought to task. This war isn't going to be easy, the cost in finance alone is horrendous and you know ere long some coalition aircraft will bomb women and children as sure as eggs is eggs. Then WE'LL be the beasts. Our publicity machine always favours the underdog. We are on a hiding to nothing ergo thousand upon thousands of boots on the ground. Give IS some stick and anyone else who threatens us. And when all those 'Freedom fighters' come back from Syria/Iraq, move them back along with all members of their family. They come here, they obey our way of life, not expect us to obey theirs. 

Sluffy wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

WW1 and WW2 - Christian killing Christian.

Not much difference really.

In my history books, nothing was mentioned about religion being even the slightest bit involved in WW2. A megalomaniac invaded certain countries and annexed others so we went to war to stop him. He was a nazi, a murderer and a thoroughly unpleasant bloke. I also wish to point out that the Commonwealth forces at the time were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, and later Shinto. Religion played no part and religion is playing no part in the latest mess. It is being used as an excuse for murderous vandalism. 

Bollotom2014 wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

WW1 and WW2 - Christian killing Christian.

Not much difference really.

In my history books, nothing was mentioned about religion being even the slightest bit involved in WW2. A megalomaniac invaded certain countries and annexed others so we went to war to stop him. He was a nazi, a murderer and a thoroughly unpleasant bloke. I also wish to point out that the Commonwealth forces at the time were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, and later Shinto. Religion played no part and religion is playing no part in the latest mess. It is being used as an excuse for murderous vandalism. 

Still doesn't change the fact that all european country's and America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand who took part in the war (on both sides) were predominantly Christians.

If you don't like that example then how about Christian killing Christian in Northern Ireland during the 'troubles'.

That was certainly religion based.

My point being that Muslims don't have a monopoly on being numb.

Ww1and 2 is as you say Sluffy but Muslims tend to make a big thing about in it all together when it suits! And then they step back into the dark ages. Hope you see what I mean? Or am I going too far? 
BTW the japs aren't Christians.

Bollotom2014 wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

WW1 and WW2 - Christian killing Christian.

Not much difference really.

In my history books, nothing was mentioned about religion being even the slightest bit involved in WW2. A megalomaniac invaded certain countries and annexed others so we went to war to stop him. He was a nazi, a murderer and a thoroughly unpleasant bloke. I also wish to point out that the Commonwealth forces at the time were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, and later Shinto. Religion played no part and religion is playing no part in the latest mess. It is being used as an excuse for murderous vandalism. 

Except for the fact that Adolf Hitler (An Austrian born Christian) blamed all the ills of Germanys recession and great depression upon those of the Jewish faith!

And more recently lets not forget the so-called civil war in the former Yugoslavia that pitted Christians against Christians against Muslims against Christians

And even more recently the troubles in certain former USSR countries such as Ukraine where its Christians against Christians.

Can't be about religion cos that stands for peace and love? Or am I missing something?

Soul Kitchen wrote:Can't be about religion cos that stands for peace and love?

I thought that was you at my church this morning. Wear pants next time.

Sluffy wrote:

Bollotom2014 wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Muslim killing Muslim, how numb is that? Allah is great! Yeh, right!!

WW1 and WW2 - Christian killing Christian.

Not much difference really.

In my history books, nothing was mentioned about religion being even the slightest bit involved in WW2. A megalomaniac invaded certain countries and annexed others so we went to war to stop him. He was a nazi, a murderer and a thoroughly unpleasant bloke. I also wish to point out that the Commonwealth forces at the time were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, and later Shinto. Religion played no part and religion is playing no part in the latest mess. It is being used as an excuse for murderous vandalism. 

Still doesn't change the fact that all european country's and America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand who took part in the war (on both sides) were predominantly Christians.

If you don't like that example then how about Christian killing Christian in Northern Ireland during the 'troubles'.

That was certainly religion based.

My point being that Muslims don't have a monopoly on being numb.

Ha ha.  How about the Sino-Japanese war? Oh and the Nazis weren't against the Jewish religion. They were against the Jewish person. Stop grasping at straws as the majority of persons in WW2 had never seen the inside of a church. I doubt that a muslim pongo killing a yank wasp was construed as even remotely a religious effort. I'll give you people, of any persuasion, just like killing people. And you know, if we could, we'd wipe Burnley off the face of the map and that has feck all to do with religion, apart from saying "Jesus Christ! Burnley's gone!"  

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Can't be about religion cos that stands for peace and love?

I thought that was you at my church this morning. Wear pants next time.

Whatever you do, if asked, don't sit on his knee. Despite the temptation

New nutter?

(In the truest sense.....?)

I never wear pants when I go to our church.
Mind you,neither does anyone else.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Can't be about religion cos that stands for peace and love?

I thought that was you at my church this morning. Wear pants next time.

The only time I go to church is for funerals!! 
The best church I've been in was the Church Inn at the back of Trinity Street church but that was about forty years ago.

Bollotom2014 wrote:Ha ha.  How about the Sino-Japanese war? Oh and the Nazis weren't against the Jewish religion. They were against the Jewish person. Stop grasping at straws as the majority of persons in WW2 had never seen the inside of a church. I doubt that a muslim pongo killing a yank wasp was construed as even remotely a religious effort. I'll give you people, of any persuasion, just like killing people. And you know, if we could, we'd wipe Burnley off the face of the map and that has feck all to do with religion, apart from saying "Jesus Christ! Burnley's gone!"  

What the fuck are you on about?

Feel free to check in any reference book you like on WW1 and WW2 and you will see the largest  percentage of people involved in the wars were Christians.

I never stated they were religious wars but rather wars fought in the main by Christians.

I never mentioned Jewish religion or Jewish people???

Any war between europian countrys since 1066 as been between Christians!

The American Civil War was too, also the Boer War.

I could go on but what's the point, I'm already suspecting we have another fake account in our midst.

Bollotom2014 wrote:
Ha ha.  How about the Sino-Japanese war? Oh and the Nazis weren't against the Jewish religion. They were against the Jewish person. Stop grasping at straws as the majority of persons in WW2 had never seen the inside of a church. I doubt that a muslim pongo killing a yank wasp was construed as even remotely a religious effort. I'll give you people, of any persuasion, just like killing people. And you know, if we could, we'd wipe Burnley off the face of the map and that has feck all to do with religion, apart from saying "Jesus Christ! Burnley's gone!"  

Actually before you have a go at Sluffy about mentioning the Jews, it was me!

And yes Adolf WAS against the Jewish religion.  In fact he blamed the religion on more or less everything, including the financial problems his family had to endure whilst his Jewish neighbours seemed to adore the financial success (which was actually just a facia more than anything else).

He even mentioned that he wanted to remove the Jewish religion, in his Mein Kampf (My Struggle) which basically, with hindsight, was his manifesto if he ever got any political power!!!

Soul Kitchen wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Soul Kitchen wrote:Can't be about religion cos that stands for peace and love?

I thought that was you at my church this morning. Wear pants next time.

The only time I go to church is for funerals!! 
The best church I've been in was the Church Inn at the back of Trinity Street church but that was about forty years ago.

Didn't that become a gay-bar at some point?

Either way it is now a burnt out shell!