Froch and Groves at it again.

Groves can't win this one he's lost already froch will take him to hell and leave him there. Don't be surprised if groves goes early or ends up in hospital if it goes late ,either way groves gets a bad knockout.

Tough one to call especially as the first fight was unresolved. Poor stoppage as Groves was so far ahead (I thought 5 rounds ahead). I suppose Froch can learn from the first fight more than Groves can inasmuch that Froch could box a lot smarter and pay Groves more respect in the early rounds so he doesn't get so far behind whereas Groves will want a repeat of the early rounds.
If Froch keeps his distance and tries to frustrate Groves to swing and miss early doors he'll be more likely to get him later on. But if he gets involved in a war from the beginning it will favour Groves IMO.

How can it be a poor stoppage because groves was ahead? He had blown and turned away and was taking unanswered punches he could have ended up a vegetable or dead the ref did his job end of,just because he won the early rounds does not mean he wins the fight he lost the fight , again he turned away and was in real danger of serious injury, when a fighter turns his back he's in trouble and froch was getting stronger groves was going he lost the bloody fight but he's such a whining little shit he can't take it.

If groves ends up like Watson or McClellan after this fight he deserves it.

 

Froch has been fighting the best all his career, and suddenly he has to see a sports psychologist because Groves is winding him up.

Angry Dad wrote:If groves ends up like Watson or McClellan after this fight he deserves it.

I think both will get hit with big shots, it wouldn't surprise me if its a brutal ending.

Angry Dad wrote:How can it be a poor stoppage because groves was ahead? He had blown and turned away and was taking unanswered punches he could have ended up a vegetable or dead the ref did his job end of,just because he won the early rounds does not mean he wins the fight he lost the fight , again he turned away and was in real danger of serious injury, when a fighter turns his back he's in trouble and froch was getting stronger groves was going he lost the bloody fight but he's such a whining little shit he can't take it.

Groves showed a lot of inexperience choosing neither to go to ground or hold on so he did get caught with a couple. That said he was still moving and he could have weathered the storm, lost the round and come out fresher still several rounds ahead on the card. I thought the ref dived in quickly and could have waited just a little longer to see if Groves was going to stop trying be macho about it and take a count or grab Froch. Just my opinion but I've seen plenty of fights where the ref has given a fighter time to sort his defence out without injury occurring.

Ok but if the ref had let it continue and say groves suffered a terrible injury how would that have gone down? They would have said the ref should have stopped it, he has to do what's right he's right on the spot,anyway groves gets to fight another day and may well win but all said and done he's a thoroughly unpleasant individual but he deserves the best protection from the ref same as any fighter and for me the ref did his job that night and does not deserve what he got for protecting groves. What's worrying is after groves crying about refs and last time I heard they could'nt get one to do the job next week and will he be scared to stop it if groves or froch is getting battered? Groves has had too much imput on the choice of ref for the rematch.

All this being said , Groves gave Froch a boxing lesson for eight rounds, hit him with some bigs shots, what not to say he'll find the target as often in this match?

Adam Booth says Grove's speed will be the difference.

Froch is getting on a bit and I thought he was below par for the first fight whilst Groves was at the top of his game. By the same token Froch has the potential to improve more on his performance in the first fight.
Also depends on whether or not Groves learns from his mistakes and especially what to do when he gets caught. And he definitely will get caught by Froch at some stage.

wanderlust wrote:Froch is getting on a bit and I thought he was below par for the first fight whilst Groves was at the top of his game. By the same token Froch has the potential to improve more on his performance in the first fight.
Also depends on whether or not Groves learns from his mistakes and especially what to do when he gets caught. And he definitely will get caught by Froch at some stage.

Groves has said that Froch is getting Knocked out, and on Thursday he will tell everyone what punch he is going to do it with.

Angry Dad wrote:Ok but if the ref had let it continue and say groves suffered a terrible injury how would that have gone down? They would have said the ref should have stopped it, he has to do what's right he's right on the spot,anyway groves gets to fight another day and may well win but all said and done he's a thoroughly unpleasant individual but he deserves the best protection from the ref same as any fighter and for me the ref did his job that night and does not deserve what he got for protecting groves. What's worrying is after groves crying about refs and last time I heard they could'nt get one to do the job next week and will he be scared to stop it if groves or froch is getting battered? Groves has had too much imput on the choice of ref for the rematch.

Sure they would have said that but you know my opinion on the timing of the stoppage.

I don't prefer either fighter. They're both professional fighters so their image, hype and bravado is important to them - but means nothing. All the pro fighters I've met are completely different from their image even going back to the days when self-promotion wasn't the be all and end all. As far as image goes I don't think Froch did himself any favours in the post fight interview on the apron and I think he wants to make amends PR wise so he can (eventually?) go out to public acclaim.
He does deserve it as he hasn't shied away from top opponents unlike some British fighters.

i hope Froch knocks him out, never liked Groves even before the first fight. I think Froch will be better prepared for this fight, perhaps he underestimated Groves in the first fight but i can't see him doing it again this time

scottjames30 wrote:

wanderlust wrote:Froch is getting on a bit and I thought he was below par for the first fight whilst Groves was at the top of his game. By the same token Froch has the potential to improve more on his performance in the first fight.
Also depends on whether or not Groves learns from his mistakes and especially what to do when he gets caught. And he definitely will get caught by Froch at some stage.

Groves has said that Froch is getting Knocked out, and on Thursday he will tell everyone what punch he is going to do it with.

That is a stupid thing to say. There's enough hype surrounding this fight already without this. Tickets are all sold aren't they?

Needs to change his script writer.

Not keen on either of them but want froch to win, i feel it was froch that was denied a clear win by the ref not the other way round.

Groves reckons he'll knockout Froch within six rounds.

Thud!

To be fair to Groves, didn't he say something similar last time about putting Froch down in the first round.....before doing it?

Breadman wrote:To be fair to Groves, didn't he say something similar last time about putting Froch down in the first round.....before doing it?

Yes, he is so confidant about knocking him out, that he is going to tell Froch what punch he is going to do it with.