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91 Re: Ched Evans on Thu Jan 08 2015, 23:57

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bwfc1874 wrote:
White84 wrote:Wasn't she already getting done by some other footballer,when Ched Evans got the key to the room.
1958 said Mike Tyson should of not been allowed to box again.( sort your head out mate) I spoke to Tyson in 2000 before he fought Julia's Francis at the MEN Arena.He was stitched up the judge didn't allow certain material submitted by the prosecution that Desiree Washington was all over Tyson.
You don't go to a mans room to tickle each other.
The American justice system is biased against the black man.I found Tyson to be a decent bloke.
He was used and it was a shame his millions went west.
I watched a documentary that showed jurors saying if they had seen certain documents,evidence they would of found Tyson not guilty.
Ched Evans was a fool and the fact that 20-000 on line signatures in Oldham when they get 6-000 on a good match watching smells of a witch hunt.
Lee Hughes killed two people,although Rape is a terrible crime,the girl was already doing Clayton Donaldson when Evans let himself in.
The thing is with jury's if they take a dislike to you,you are finished.It can be a lottery.A case in America where the jury was hung on Manslaughter or Murder 2 they tossed a coin becuase they wanted to get home.On hearing this the judge declared a mistrial.
What greater chance to get a free kick this Footballer down to Earth,you can imagine the jury the Women ( thinks he can do what he wants) blokes loads of cash thinks he's bad cos he's a footballer on money we can only dream of.)She was getting it off Donaldson,the night porter said he  went to the room and could here people having sex.

Sounds like a case of the beers wore off I've been used abused and my boyfriends gonna want to know where I've been.Why should someone show remorse if actually they were acting under consent of someone pissed as a fart.
He's been a fool and not very gentlemanly,he's behaved abohorantley.But Lee Hughes killed two people.
He was welcomed back and is still playing today I think.

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The problem with people like you is that you don't bother looking at any of the facts behind the case to base your opinion on. You hear a story, make somethig up in your mind and then plough ahead on an opinion which is usually extreme. If you could back anything you say (on any topic) with facts people might take you seriously. But you're too dim to read around a subject and get an informed opinion.

Take a look at the facts of the case so you can either back up what you've said here or completely re-write it.


You may not agree with anything he says but you seem to insult him at every given chance, which makes you look like a tit tbh. 

Just a bit of helpful advice, you stay classy

92 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 00:03

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If you had an opinion on anything it might get to you too. I can't stand views like White84, they hold the world back and I've seen the sort of shit they cause.

Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.

93 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 00:05

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1874 wrote:Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.

Think you might be right

94 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 09:08

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bwfc1874 wrote:Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.

another one bites the dust

95 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 09:13

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bwfc1874 wrote:If you had an opinion on anything it might get to you too. I can't stand views like White84, they hold the world back and I've seen the sort of shit they cause.

Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.
You would seriously benefit from a sense of humour and charisma transplant!
You come across as a right condescending know all and if you had had the sort of training I and many of my ilk had had your bollox would have seen a fair amount of axle grease by now!!!
That might seem a bit extreme to you but it would certainly knock that chip off your shoulder and down a couple of rungs!! Now that is not me having a pop,  that is me telling you how it is.

96 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 11:06

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Soul Kitchen wrote:
You would seriously benefit from a sense of humour and charisma transplant!
You come across as a right condescending know all and if you had had the sort of training I and many of my ilk had had your bollox would have seen a fair amount of axle grease by now!!!
That might seem a bit extreme to you but it would certainly knock that chip off your shoulder and down a couple of rungs!! Now that is not me having a pop,  that is me telling you how it is.

What a load of ironic bollocks from the biggest tosspot on here.

Training? The only training you need is in basic English.

97 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 11:13

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bwfc1874 wrote:Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.

another one bites the dust

Dropping like flies.

Oh dear.....

Hardly surprising though, given recent events.

Still, at least Scott's back, so that's ok.....

98 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 11:43

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
Soul Kitchen wrote:
You would seriously benefit from a sense of humour and charisma transplant!
You come across as a right condescending know all and if you had had the sort of training I and many of my ilk had had your bollox would have seen a fair amount of axle grease by now!!!
That might seem a bit extreme to you but it would certainly knock that chip off your shoulder and down a couple of rungs!! Now that is not me having a pop,  that is me telling you how it is.

What a load of ironic bollocks from the biggest tosspot on here.

Training? The only training you need is in basic English.
Says the girl with the bike stand arse!Smile
And your poll doesn't exactly prove your tosspot theory!!!Smile
My total of six votes will have had 3 from you and 3 from PC 1874, so what's that leave?

99 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 12:31

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Breadman wrote:
y2johnny wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:Getting wound up over what I read on a football forum is ridiculous though, it's time I took a break from the whole thing.

another one bites the dust

Dropping like flies.

Oh dear.....

Hardly surprising though, given recent events.

Still, at least Scott's back, so that's ok.....

Time to move on i think.

100 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 12:58

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This definitely appears to have affected Breadman's life.

I won't be buying anymore Super Toastie until he calms down.

101 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 13:10

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He is like a woman on her periods, let it go.

102 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 13:32

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Hipster_Nebula wrote:


Time to move on i think.

Yup, you're right.

And judging by how quiet things appear to be on here nowadays, it looks like quite a few of us already have....

103 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 13:37

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Breadman wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:


Time to move on i think.

Yup, you're right.

And judging by how quiet things appear to be on here nowadays, it looks like quite a few of us already have....

Do as you please.

I don't even know what happened. But I doubt it was that serious. Forgive me if it was.

104 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:08

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It wasn't.

That's what makes it all so stupid.

Bread loses, the site loses.

Over what?

An internet spat, that could so EASILY be avoided using the sites provided 'ignore' function

Completely pathetic really - grown men!

Anyway quiet or not we move on - hopefully now we will find the fun again once we put all this behind us.

Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.

105 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:10

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Breadman, you need to get over it - you can't get on with everyone and people will always say nasty things on the internet. Hipster and Magoo have been following me round BWFC forums for 10 years calling me names but I don't quit.

106 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:22

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Breadman wrote:

Still, at least Scott's back, so that's ok.....
I'm fine thanks, really doing well, feeling great and looking forwards to a great 2015.

And how about yourself?

107 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:48

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scottjames30 wrote:
Breadman wrote:

Still, at least Scott's back, so that's ok.....
I'm fine thanks, really doing well, feeling great and looking forwards to a great 2015.

And how about yourself?

i don't think he asked how you was SJ

108 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:52

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y2johnny wrote:

i don't think he asked how you was SJ
Really, the last time he spoke he was offering me an Apology,

i thought he had got over me, he was having a go at someone behind the Pms for playing him or something?

I should take more notice as to whats going on.

109 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 14:58

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This thread is about Ched Evans not about raising old battles that no-one finds interesting.
Stick to the thread.
Steve Bruce thinks he's hard done by and that Evans should be allowed back on the pitch.
Perhaps he should give him a job at Hull!

110 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 15:27

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come on people lets put all this behind us now and get on with the usual drivel we post instead of trying to wind other people up. This is by far the best BWFC forum out there and it would be a shame to see it ruined with all this back biting.

Sorry Rammy for taking this off topic again

111 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 17:03

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rammywhite wrote:This thread is about Ched Evans not about raising old battles that no-one finds interesting.
Stick to the thread.
Steve Bruce thinks he's hard done by and that Evans should be allowed back on the pitch.
Perhaps he should give him a job at Hull!
Bruce is not on his own, apparently two other Prem managers have stood Evans's corner?
I wonder if he wins his appeal what the cost may be to the taxpayer if an injustice has taken place?

112 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 19:17

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We all want to see criminals get their comeupence and I too am glad to see Evans have a hard time of it.
But he's served his time, does he really deserve to be punished by not being able to get a job? It does kind of feel like there is a witch hunt out for him. I really don't know what to think. I am glad he is being treat like shit but isn't it all a bit of unfair justice? I don't know.

113 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 22:45

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Rape is rape. That said, if he pulled a weapon and forced himself on some unsuspecting innocent and beat her up afterwards, I'd be better able to understand the hysteria surrounding a footballer wanting to play football. As it is, I think it is being overdone.

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114 Re: Ched Evans on Fri Jan 09 2015, 23:53

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The problem is the original court verdict.  How can one player be let off completely and the other be found guilty?

Clayton McDonald was found not guilty of the exact same crime on the girl and yet Ched Evans was - so she was NOT too drunk for Clayton but suddenly was TOO drunk for Ched!!!

The crux here is that no one can actually remember what actually happened, and that includes the woman - therefore under current law if there is any doubt then they should have returned a not-guilty verdict for both and not half/half like what they have done!

115 Re: Ched Evans on Sun Jan 18 2015, 03:40

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Well put!

116 Re: Ched Evans on Mon Jan 19 2015, 16:28

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bwfc71 wrote:The problem is the original court verdict.  How can one player be let off completely and the other be found guilty?

Clayton McDonald was found not guilty of the exact same crime on the girl and yet Ched Evans was - so she was NOT too drunk for Clayton but suddenly was TOO drunk for Ched!!!

The crux here is that no one can actually remember what actually happened, and that includes the woman - therefore under current law if there is any doubt then they should have returned a not-guilty verdict for both and not half/half like what they have done!


.....which is basically what Bruce etc were arguing. The incident report did imply that the verdict was very questionable so he might actually be innocent AND he's served some time - two reasons for giving him a second chance. He needs to make a successful appeal to convince me though.

117 Re: Ched Evans on Mon Jan 19 2015, 16:33

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He's out on licence so hasn't actually served his time yet. Once that's up I'd look into it again, but not before that.

118 Re: Ched Evans on Mon Oct 05 2015, 21:00

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Footballer Ched Evans's rape conviction is referred to Court of Appeal after 'new' evidence emerges

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260470/Convicted-rapist-Ched-Evans-s-case-referred-Court-Appeal.html

119 Re: Ched Evans on Tue Oct 06 2015, 09:36

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wanderlust wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:The problem is the original court verdict.  How can one player be let off completely and the other be found guilty?

Clayton McDonald was found not guilty of the exact same crime on the girl and yet Ched Evans was - so she was NOT too drunk for Clayton but suddenly was TOO drunk for Ched!!!

The crux here is that no one can actually remember what actually happened, and that includes the woman - therefore under current law if there is any doubt then they should have returned a not-guilty verdict for both and not half/half like what they have done!


.....which is basically what Bruce etc were arguing. The incident report did imply that the verdict was very questionable so he might actually be innocent AND he's served some time - two reasons for giving him a second chance. He needs to make a successful appeal to convince me though.

Looks like the appeal might have a chance. Very few cases of this type are referred back to the court - around 3 to 4 % of those assessed. Of those that actually make it back to court, 68% are successful. 
However it seems strange that the radio mentioned that the new evidence was a witness statement - either a new witness or a new statement from a previous witness. Seems unusual to come forward after the lad has already served his time.

120 Re: Ched Evans on Tue Oct 06 2015, 11:06

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Let's be honest. Ched Evans might be a fooking tugboat but this conviction has been iffy from the start. I don't understand how there can be two men in a room with a woman, both have sex with her, both claim it was consensual but one ends up in prison and the other gets off scot-free.

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