Yet another Religious atrocity

Soul Kitchen wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Possibly the most Mail headline of all time -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3125530/The-breeding-ground-jihadis-ice-cream-lady-wears-burka-great-textile-town-Dewsbury-undergone-terrible-transformation.html

You have to laugh. Simple folk must be terrified though.

Would you lose your nimby shackles and move to Savile?

What makes you think nimby shackles? We've never met SK.

Invite me to your lads chapel club some time.

Move to Savile?!
Oh no, NOT IN MY BACK YARD!!
Obnoxious Yam Yam prick!!!

PS left the Lads Club behind years ago, pity you'd never understand.

bwfc1874 wrote:Why would anyone live in Yorkshire?

Unfortunately people do, but I'd rather live there than south of wire anytime!!

We've been through this SK Yam-yams are from the Black Country - which I'm not. I'll excuse your ignorance again but just PM me if you need help with that.

I actually just moved to a predominantly Muslim area - Tower Hamlets and i grew up in Birmingham which has a large Muslim population.

So no, unlike you I'm not scared by Muslim people. If you got out of your bubble a little more you may be able to expand your narrow view a little bit.

Reebok Trotter wrote:Not on your nelly!

How would you know?

bwfc1874 wrote:We've been through this SK Yam-yams are from the Black Country - which I'm not. I'll excuse your ignorance again but just PM me if you need help with that.

I actually just moved to a predominantly Muslim area - Tower Hamlets and i grew up in Birmingham which has a large Muslim population.

So no, unlike you I'm not scared by Muslim people. If you got out of your bubble a little more you may be able to expand your narrow view a little bit.

Thanks for your concern, but Ive been there, done it and got the t shirt before you squat out of a jap's eye.
As if you could tell me anything of any interest ffs!

Think you'll need to elaborate on that babble to give it any actual meaning SK.

Even better, admit you're talking out of your arse and expand your views a bit.

bwfc1874 wrote:I can't be bothered making an islamophobia (yes Hipster there is such a thing) thread. But this is where the lack of sensible debate on both sides creates - 

http://t.co/cjfA2eaVGg

No I'm afraid there isn't such a thing. 

I don't have a "phobia" of Islam, I've read and understood it's message and I don't like it. 

I feel the same way about Christianity, though I doubt I'll be accused of Christanaphobia. 

the word was invented because they can't use the word racist, though they still try.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:I can't be bothered making an islamophobia (yes Hipster there is such a thing) thread. But this is where the lack of sensible debate on both sides creates - 

http://t.co/cjfA2eaVGg

No I'm afraid there isn't such a thing. 

I don't have a "phobia" of Islam, I've read and understood it's message and I don't like it. 

I feel the same way about Christianity, though I doubt I'll be accused of Christanaphobia. 

the word was invented because they can't use the word racist, though they still try.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:I can't be bothered making an islamophobia (yes Hipster there is such a thing) thread. But this is where the lack of sensible debate on both sides creates - 

http://t.co/cjfA2eaVGg

No I'm afraid there isn't such a thing. 

I don't have a "phobia" of Islam, I've read and understood it's message and I don't like it. 

I feel the same way about Christianity, though I doubt I'll be accused of Christanaphobia. 

the word was invented because they can't use the word racist, though they still try.

I've never suggested you have a phobia of Islam, I don't think any rational person could.

What is clear though is that there are a growing number of people who generalise and discriminate against Muslims. As far as I can see that's Islamophobia, I understand the flaws in the wording but it's a real and growing issue which needs to be addressed. Debating what word is best used to describe it is not doing that.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/17/hate-crimes-against-muslims-britain-spike-jihadi-attacks-study

bwfc1874 wrote:

What is clear though is that there are a growing number of people who generalise and discriminate against Muslims. As far as I can see that's Islamophobia,

True.... but what is also clear is that there are a growing number of Muslims who generalise and discriminate against ALL non Muslims.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

What is clear though is that there are a growing number of people who generalise and discriminate against Muslims. As far as I can see that's Islamophobia,

True.... but what is also clear is that there are a growing number of Muslims who generalise and discriminate against ALL non Muslims.

I agree, and yet no bleeding heart liberal has invented a word for this particular kind of hatred.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

What is clear though is that there are a growing number of people who generalise and discriminate against Muslims. As far as I can see that's Islamophobia,

True.... but what is also clear is that there are a growing number of Muslims who generalise and discriminate against ALL non Muslims.

Correct, but does that make it right or help improve the situation?

We also willfully ignore why there's so much anti western feeling because of our fucked up foreign policy. It makes it all the easier to foster hate when we're bombing the shit out of Muslims.

We already have a word for these idiots they're called bigots. 

They made up the word islamaphobia so they could equate it with racism. 

It doesn't help to improve the situation by putting another nonsense religion on a pedestal absolved of all genuine criticism and concern, they lump all dialogue about "Islam" under the banner of Islamaphobia so even thinkers and debaters are made to appear like vile bigots.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:We already have a word for these idiots they're called bigots. 

They made up the word islamaphobia so they could equate it with racism. 

It doesn't help to improve the situation by putting another nonsense religion on a pedestal absolved of all genuine criticism and concern, they lump all dialogue about "Islam" under the banner of Islamaphobia so even thinkers and debaters are made to appear like vile bigots.

Correct, but what do I know, I'm only an infidel?

I'm happy being an infidel. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Soul Kitchen wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:We already have a word for these idiots they're called bigots. 

They made up the word islamaphobia so they could equate it with racism. 

It doesn't help to improve the situation by putting another nonsense religion on a pedestal absolved of all genuine criticism and concern, they lump all dialogue about "Islam" under the banner of Islamaphobia so even thinkers and debaters are made to appear like vile bigots.

Correct, but what do I know, I'm only an infidel?

You've proved time and time again you're a bigot you jumped up prat.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:We already have a word for these idiots they're called bigots. 

They made up the word islamaphobia so they could equate it with racism. 

It doesn't help to improve the situation by putting another nonsense religion on a pedestal absolved of all genuine criticism and concern, they lump all dialogue about "Islam" under the banner of Islamaphobia so even thinkers and debaters are made to appear like vile bigots.

I hate all religion but this point isn't just about those who cry racism at any criticism of (yet another) twisted faith. views are becoming more and more polarised, neither side is helping. You won't eradicate religion - partly because of Islam being so backwards. So A middle ground must be found.

Let it go, mate.

You can't win this one.

Did you see Obama talking about reforming the gun laws and The Second Amendment on TV tonight after the latest gun massacre?

He looked proper deflated because he knew that whilst the vast majority of us can see what's going on, the people with the real power don't want to change the status quo because they're making too much cash out of the whole deal and they will veto any proposed change.

Same script with the current media crusade that all Muslims are terrorists.

There are far too many people with a vested interest in perpetuating this idea that all Muslims are dangerous nuttters and they are powerful enough to keep this myth alive.

And at the risk of sounding like a snob, yer average Sun reader can't see this and they are all too happy to agree with what they read because it fits with their narrow world view.

And it makes them feel clever and right.

So they buy in and keep the myth alive.

Fear, ignorance and misunderstanding have always been used to further political agendas and all we can do is rail against it and try and offer a contrary opinion.

I've stopped getting annoyed about it now.

There's no point.

All you can do is speak your mind, maintain your convictions and hope that enough of the younger generation can see that you've got a valid point.

This is the message that should be drummed into ALL religions!