Racist...Hipster_Nebula wrote:The only genuine threat is islamic extremism.
Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....?
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21 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:32
Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
22 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:32
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Islam isn't a race.
23 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:32
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Reebok_Rebel wrote:I can assure you, the UK is no longer a major world player as far as the armed forces go.Natasha Whittam wrote:bwfc1874 wrote:
Their policy is to reduce the armed forces over a long period of time to a level suitable for defence of the country. We have the 5th strongest army in the world at this point, for a country our size with the allies we have that's ridiculous and if we weren't getting involved in foreign wars it would be near obsolete. It should definitely be reduced, who exactly is about to invade us?
A totally scary post. Hang your head in shame. The fact no one invades us is the fact we are well defended.
And why should we be? Russia, China, America are the superpowers too many retain this completely false illusion that we're a big player when we're not.
24 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:33
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Hipster_Nebula wrote:The only genuine threat is islamic extremism.
Correct.
25 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:37
Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Because we should.bwfc1874 wrote:Reebok_Rebel wrote:I can assure you, the UK is no longer a major world player as far as the armed forces go.Natasha Whittam wrote:bwfc1874 wrote:
Their policy is to reduce the armed forces over a long period of time to a level suitable for defence of the country. We have the 5th strongest army in the world at this point, for a country our size with the allies we have that's ridiculous and if we weren't getting involved in foreign wars it would be near obsolete. It should definitely be reduced, who exactly is about to invade us?
A totally scary post. Hang your head in shame. The fact no one invades us is the fact we are well defended.
And why should we be? Russia, China, America are the superpowers too many retain this completely false illusion that we're a big player when we're not.
For hundreds of years Britain has been a nation hated by many, countries that nobody hates dont need an armed force, we are not one of these.
26 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:38
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
bwfc1874 wrote:
And why should we be? Russia, China, America are the superpowers too many retain this completely false illusion that we're a big player when we're not.
Totally clueless. When countries need something doing on the quiet and professionally who do you think they call? The British SAS.
27 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:38
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Reebok Rebel wrote:For hundreds of years Britain has been a nation hated by many, countries that nobody hates dont need an armed force, we are not one of these.
Sounds to me like you see it more of an issue of national pride?
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28 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:39
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Nat Lofthouse
We have been invaded so many times is anyone even bothered anymore? If UKIP are to be believed, we are being invaded right now - despite our disproportionately large army.
Anyhoo, 90% of our forces are on the other side of the world protecting America's "legitimate business interests" so they'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard if the UK was attacked.
Anyhoo, 90% of our forces are on the other side of the world protecting America's "legitimate business interests" so they'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard if the UK was attacked.
29 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:39
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Natasha Whittam wrote:When countries need something doing on the quiet and professionally who do you think they call? The British SAS.
Totally clueless. You could keep the SAS and still massively reduce spending on the army.
30 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:41
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
bwfc1874 wrote:
Totally clueless. You could keep the SAS and still massively reduce spending on the army.
You idiot. The MOD can barely afford to give our troops protective gear, how could they spend any less?
31 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:41
scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
bwfc1874 wrote:Natasha Whittam wrote:When countries need something doing on the quiet and professionally who do you think they call? The British SAS.
Totally clueless. You could keep the SAS and still massively reduce spending on the army.
We have been told by experts to pump our army up, who ever is in charge.
32 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:48
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An inflatable army?
Another stupid Green idea no doubt...
Another stupid Green idea no doubt...
33 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:48
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
scottjames30 wrote:
We have been told by experts to pump our army up, who ever is in charge.
1874 knows best though.
34 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:52
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Breadman wrote:An inflatable army?
Another stupid Green idea no doubt...
35 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:56
scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Just imagine if some on here was called up, it would be an inflatable army wouldn't it
36 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 16:57
Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
We are never going to be suddenly invaded, nor are we suddenly going to be nuked - things escalate over time. The forces would be back were we needed them.wanderlust wrote:We have been invaded so many times is anyone even bothered anymore? If UKIP are to be believed, we are being invaded right now - despite our disproportionately large army.
Anyhoo, 90% of our forces are on the other side of the world protecting America's "legitimate business interests" so they'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard if the UK was attacked.
The one interest we may have to protect in the future, even if the Russians decide to give up on re-forming the Soviet Union, Oil is running out. There could be oil off the coast of Cyprus... we will have a big finger in that pie should it turn out their is... other countries may decide they want a bit of it as well... so the bigger the army, the easier it is to protect our interests should we need to.
Its the way the world works unfortunately and always will.
Lusty, tell me this... what would you do if the tide suddenly turned, our military hardware consisted of 2 tanks, a helicopter with 2 air rifles tied on to it and 6 rubber dinghy's off Ebay. we suddenly found the need to defend ourselves... would you complain then that we should have had a bigger and better armed force?
Or are you a Hippy type who follows some deluded ideology that one day there will be peace and everything can be settled over a cup of tea?
Id love world peace, unfortunately, we are never going to get it, the human species has not evolved to that level yet.
Before we are even halfway there, religion needs to be eradicated and EVERY country on earth needs to destroy its Nuclear weapons collectively.
37 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 17:00
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Reebok_Rebel wrote:religion needs to be eradicated
What will I do on a Sunday morning?
38 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 17:01
Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Enjoy it?Natasha Whittam wrote:Reebok_Rebel wrote:religion needs to be eradicated
What will I do on a Sunday morning?
39 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 17:04
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Reebok_Rebel wrote:We are never going to be suddenly invaded, nor are we suddenly going to be nuked - things escalate over time. The forces would be back were we needed them.wanderlust wrote:We have been invaded so many times is anyone even bothered anymore? If UKIP are to be believed, we are being invaded right now - despite our disproportionately large army.
Anyhoo, 90% of our forces are on the other side of the world protecting America's "legitimate business interests" so they'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard if the UK was attacked.
The one interest we may have to protect in the future, even if the Russians decide to give up on re-forming the Soviet Union, Oil is running out. There could be oil off the coast of Cyprus... we will have a big finger in that pie should it turn out their is... other countries may decide they want a bit of it as well... so the bigger the army, the easier it is to protect our interests should we need to.
Its the way the world works unfortunately and always will.
Lusty, tell me this... what would you do if the tide suddenly turned, our military hardware consisted of 2 tanks, a helicopter with 2 air rifles tied on to it and 6 rubber dinghy's off Ebay. we suddenly found the need to defend ourselves... would you complain then that we should have had a bigger and better armed force?
Or are you a Hippy type who follows some deluded ideology that one day there will be peace and everything can be settled over a cup of tea?
Id love world peace, unfortunately, we are never going to get it, the human species has not evolved to that level yet.
Before we are even halfway there, religion needs to be eradicated and EVERY country on earth needs to destroy its Nuclear weapons collectively.
Why should we have any claim to oil in Cyprus? The airforce base there? It's attitudes like yours that cause wars.
40 Re: Are the Greens just UKIPpers who hug trees....? Tue Feb 24 2015, 17:10
Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Its attitudes like mine that prevent them...bwfc1874 wrote:Reebok_Rebel wrote:We are never going to be suddenly invaded, nor are we suddenly going to be nuked - things escalate over time. The forces would be back were we needed them.wanderlust wrote:We have been invaded so many times is anyone even bothered anymore? If UKIP are to be believed, we are being invaded right now - despite our disproportionately large army.
Anyhoo, 90% of our forces are on the other side of the world protecting America's "legitimate business interests" so they'd be as much use as a chocolate fireguard if the UK was attacked.
The one interest we may have to protect in the future, even if the Russians decide to give up on re-forming the Soviet Union, Oil is running out. There could be oil off the coast of Cyprus... we will have a big finger in that pie should it turn out their is... other countries may decide they want a bit of it as well... so the bigger the army, the easier it is to protect our interests should we need to.
Its the way the world works unfortunately and always will.
Lusty, tell me this... what would you do if the tide suddenly turned, our military hardware consisted of 2 tanks, a helicopter with 2 air rifles tied on to it and 6 rubber dinghy's off Ebay. we suddenly found the need to defend ourselves... would you complain then that we should have had a bigger and better armed force?
Or are you a Hippy type who follows some deluded ideology that one day there will be peace and everything can be settled over a cup of tea?
Id love world peace, unfortunately, we are never going to get it, the human species has not evolved to that level yet.
Before we are even halfway there, religion needs to be eradicated and EVERY country on earth needs to destroy its Nuclear weapons collectively.
Why should we have any claim to oil in Cyprus? The airforce base there? It's attitudes like yours that cause wars.
If you have look like you have huge biceps and a Masters Degree in MMA, not as many people will mess with you.
Countries are the same.
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