Donald Trump for President of the USA

Natasha Whittam wrote:

okocha wrote:
The point is.....he's still being abusive to females, calling Hilary the devil etc. just yesterday! The man has no respect for women, including his own wife.

And the phrase he used about grabbing a woman by the p...y is NOT something commonly heard or used in male conversations in locker rooms or bars.

But how does that have any bearing on how he deals with, for example, Putin or immigration?

He's a nasty guy, we agree on that, but something he said in private doesn't make him a bad leader.

And I'm sorry, but I hear that sort of language in pubs and restaurants every weekend.

It isn't just women he's against he judges people on race, religion disability. To be a good leader you have to have everyone's best interests at heart and Trump clearly doesn't.
Unless you are part of his narrow band of what he deems acceptable you are in for a very rough ride under him. Regarding sitting at the table with the likes of Putin, well Putin is a very smart and experienced operator and Trump would be that far out of his depth it would be scary.
In terms of foreign relations you'd have to say that Clinton is far better equipped to deal with the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping than Trump as she has a much better political background and is much more adept at mixing diplomacy and duplicity than the loose cannon Trump.

If she wins will she get male staff to give her some head in the oval office to get back at Big Bill

Lard Lad wrote:If she wins will she get male staff to give her some head in the oval office to get back at Big Bill

I think she'd find it very difficult to find someone who would, and that includes Bill.

whatsgoingon wrote:
It isn't just women he's against he judges people on race, religion disability. To be a good leader you have to have everyone's best interests at heart and Trump clearly doesn't.
Unless you are part of his narrow band of what he deems acceptable you are in for a very rough ride under him. Regarding sitting at the table with the likes of Putin, well Putin is a very smart and experienced operator and Trump would be that far out of his depth it would be scary.
In terms of foreign relations you'd have to say that Clinton is far better equipped to deal with the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping than Trump as she has a much better political background and is much more adept at mixing diplomacy and duplicity than the loose cannon Trump.

I think Trump will actually bring the US and Russia closer together, he seems to respect Putin, so rather than goading him all the time as the US seem to at the moment, perhaps he'll do some good and bring prosperity to the relationship.

Not for one minute do I think Trump is a good man, but I don't think any politician is good these days. They're in it for themselves regardless of the shite they spout.

Trump in.

Keep in mind all the news media is full of nonsense.  Trump has more Mexicans and women working for him right now as we speak than Hilary will ever have.
Right now the pundits here are going crazy trying to prove that men don't talk like that in locker rooms. What f**king world do these people live in.
It's all perception...not facts.

De Niro said it. In less than a minute.

terenceanne wrote:You have to be careful what you believe when told by the mainstream media.  On both sides of the pond the media is biased to the left for the most part. 

Biased to the left ? other than the Daily Mirror & Guardian the English press is well known to be overtly right wing. and i doubt that the US is any different.

Trump is clearly unfit to hold office but with the democrats putting up a candidate that splits opinion it gives him a chance.

The yanks and the way politics works, deserve all they get however the rest of us are going to pay the price for installing this idiot.

For instance We have a Democrat president made powerless because the Congress is run by the Republicans that can vote down any law that the democrats want to make. A weird system but it as always been so.

If this was in England then Trump would have to stand down due to past mistakes and forced to do the decent thing, but no this guy he will go for broke.

wessy wrote:

terenceanne wrote:You have to be careful what you believe when told by the mainstream media.  On both sides of the pond the media is biased to the left for the most part. 

Biased to the left ? other than the Daily Mirror & Guardian the English press is well known to be overtly right wing. and i doubt that the US is any different.

If this was in England then Trump would have to stand down due to past mistakes and forced to do the decent thing, but no this guy he will go for broke.

The media (apart from the BBC) is owned by tax dodging billionaires so to suggest that they are biased to the left is a pretty preposterous statement.

However I'm not sure that Trump would have to stand down in Britain. Being a lying adulterous buffoon doesn't seem to have stopped Boris from becoming Foreign Secretary.

xmiles wrote:

wessy wrote:

terenceanne wrote:You have to be careful what you believe when told by the mainstream media.  On both sides of the pond the media is biased to the left for the most part. 

Biased to the left ? other than the Daily Mirror & Guardian the English press is well known to be overtly right wing. and i doubt that the US is any different.

If this was in England then Trump would have to stand down due to past mistakes and forced to do the decent thing, but no this guy he will go for broke.

The media (apart from the BBC) is owned by tax dodging billionaires so to suggest that they are biased to the left is a pretty preposterous statement.

However I'm not sure that Trump would have to stand down in Britain. Being a lying adulterous buffoon doesn't seem to have stopped Boris from becoming Foreign Secretary.

Nope ...... In America virtually all the media is owned by all tax dodging millionaires.......NBC, CBS, CNN, Hollywood, New York Times Etc.....but for some unknown reason it is very much left on all elections not just this one.  To boot Wall Street has donated untold millions to Hilary's campaign but next to nothing to Trump's.  So we have rich people voting for politicians who want to tax the hell out of them. How does it make sense ..... no idea.

Donald Trump has got this in the bag. It is crazy.. But I reckon he'd do a good job.

terenceanne wrote:

xmiles wrote:

wessy wrote:

terenceanne wrote:You have to be careful what you believe when told by the mainstream media.  On both sides of the pond the media is biased to the left for the most part. 

Biased to the left ? other than the Daily Mirror & Guardian the English press is well known to be overtly right wing. and i doubt that the US is any different.

If this was in England then Trump would have to stand down due to past mistakes and forced to do the decent thing, but no this guy he will go for broke.

The media (apart from the BBC) is owned by tax dodging billionaires so to suggest that they are biased to the left is a pretty preposterous statement.

However I'm not sure that Trump would have to stand down in Britain. Being a lying adulterous buffoon doesn't seem to have stopped Boris from becoming Foreign Secretary.

Nope ...... In America virtually all the media is owned by all tax dodging millionaires.......NBC, CBS, CNN, Hollywood, New York Times Etc.....but for some unknown reason it is very much left on all elections not just this one.  To boot Wall Street has donated untold millions to Hilary's campaign but next to nothing to Trump's.  So we have rich people voting for politicians who want to tax the hell out of them. How does it make sense ..... no idea.

I don't think Clinton can really be described as left wing. The Democrats are pretty much like the Tories whereas the Republicans are like right wing Brexit Tories. The left wing such as it is in America would be Bernie Saunders. And there is no way that Clinton is going "to tax the hell out of" rich people - that's why they are backing her.

XMILES "And there is no way that Clinton is going "to tax the hell out of" rich people - that's why they are backing her."  ???????   say what
That's the #1 selling point of the election .....both Bernie & Hilary are proposing tax hikes on the rich. They bang on about it night & day. The 1% are gonna pay for this and pay for that.  In fact there's no other platform of note.....just banter on the usual nonsense.  Could be me though... Ill stand corrected.

Awful campaign and twice awful candidates, but anyone that thinks Trump would be a better option than Clinton barely deserves to vote. He has no serious policies at all, pie in the sky, vague nonsense.

Terrenceanne takes the biscuit again though the media in the US and Britain is left biased? On what possible measure are you suggesting that?

terenceanne wrote:

xmiles wrote:

wessy wrote:

terenceanne wrote:You have to be careful what you believe when told by the mainstream media.  On both sides of the pond the media is biased to the left for the most part. 

Biased to the left ? other than the Daily Mirror & Guardian the English press is well known to be overtly right wing. and i doubt that the US is any different.

If this was in England then Trump would have to stand down due to past mistakes and forced to do the decent thing, but no this guy he will go for broke.

The media (apart from the BBC) is owned by tax dodging billionaires so to suggest that they are biased to the left is a pretty preposterous statement.

However I'm not sure that Trump would have to stand down in Britain. Being a lying adulterous buffoon doesn't seem to have stopped Boris from becoming Foreign Secretary.

Nope ...... In America virtually all the media is owned by all tax dodging millionaires.......NBC, CBS, CNN, Hollywood, New York Times Etc.....but for some unknown reason it is very much left on all elections not just this one.  To boot Wall Street has donated untold millions to Hilary's campaign but next to nothing to Trump's.  So we have rich people voting for politicians who want to tax the hell out of them. How does it make sense ..... no idea.

You said both sides of the pond, this side you couldn't be more wrong. see you left the right wing Fox news out your list ? for the US

terenceanne wrote:XMILES "And there is no way that Clinton is going "to tax the hell out of" rich people - that's why they are backing her."  ???????   say what
That's the #1 selling point of the election .....both Bernie & Hilary are proposing tax hikes on the rich. They bang on about it night & day. The 1% are gonna pay for this and pay for that.  In fact there's no other platform of note.....just banter on the usual nonsense.  Could be me though... Ill stand corrected.

Clinton is certainly talking about taxing the multi-millionaires and billionaires but just how much tax they will ultimately pay is difficult to estimate. Because these rich fucks pay no tax now they are horrified at the prospect of paying any tax - remember "taxes are only for the little people". Still they could always move to Britain and continue to pay no taxes like all the ones already here.

Final TV debate last night and barring a huge upset, Clinton's got it in the bag. Trump as usual did a job on his existing target market (white, male, working class/unemployed according to the demographic data) but did nothing to capture new votes. 

Here is one take on the 3rd debate

I guess the only question remaining is just how many non-registered secret Trump sympathisers are going to sign up to vent their frustration.

How creepy is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/awkward-moment-donald-trump-tries-9067667

wanderlust wrote:
I guess the only question remaining is just how many non-registered secret Trump sympathisers are going to sign up to vent their frustration.

Oddly enough, I heard that it was all the Hispanic/Mexican unregistered, (forget the term used), illegals who would make the difference in many states, obviously against Trump. Strange that many of Clinton's wins will be as a result of illegal voting.
Very unedifying process this, and neither of them come out with any credit. All I do know is that Clinton is one of the most corrupt, and inept, Senators to have come through, and will not do America, or us, a lot of good. There again, Trump is a completely loose cannon.

boltonbonce wrote:How creepy is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/awkward-moment-donald-trump-tries-9067667

More shite from the media trying to ruin Trump, that vid is totally innocent