Transfer rumours !

Seems to have gone unnoticed on here. A former player joined the winding up petition against us but failed to turn up to court to press the issue.

Who dat?

Wasn't mentioned who

Breadman wrote:Mears.

Still no idea what he looks like.

According to Wiki:

On 29 July 2011, Mears, along with Burnley teammate Chris Eagles, joined Bolton Wanderers on a three-year contract for a joint fee in the region of £3 million. However, on 4 August he broke his leg in a training session. Manager Owen Coyle later said he expected Mears to be absent for a minimum of five months. He made his full debut for the club when being named in the starting line up for the game at Norwich City on 4 February 2012, which Bolton eventually lost 2–0. However, following the game Mears complained about a pain in the leg that had been broken the previous August and, after a screw was removed from the leg, manager Owen Coyle said he expected Mears to be out of action until late March. Mears didn't make another appearance for the rest of the season. At the end of the 2013-14 season he was released by the club along with Chris Eagles, Zat Knight and Jay Lynch.

No wonder you don't know what he looks like!

Played 28 games for us...now plays in the USA. Was earning about £25k a week (1.3 million a season!)

Another reminder of how we got into this mess and must never do this again:

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BoltonTillIDie wrote:
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Yet another indictment of that plonker Coyle!

Boggersbelief wrote:Seems to have gone unnoticed on here. A former player joined the winding up petition against us but failed to turn up to court to press the issue.

It was Elmander. Apparently we didn't pay him anything like enough.

wanderlust wrote:

Boggersbelief wrote:Seems to have gone unnoticed on here. A former player joined the winding up petition against us but failed to turn up to court to press the issue.

It was Elmander. Apparently we didn't pay him anything like enough.

If you enter contracts to pay people idiotic amounts of money you can't stop paying them without there being consequences. It's no good blaming useless tossers like Ngog and Madine for robbing us blind. It's entirely the fault of the clueless tossers like Coyle and Gartside who agreed to pay them these amounts of money.

xmiles wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Boggersbelief wrote:Seems to have gone unnoticed on here. A former player joined the winding up petition against us but failed to turn up to court to press the issue.

It was Elmander. Apparently we didn't pay him anything like enough.

If you enter contracts to pay people idiotic amounts of money you can't stop paying them without there being consequences. It's no good blaming useless tossers like Ngog and Madine for robbing us blind. It's entirely the fault of the clueless tossers like Coyle and Gartside who agreed to pay them these amounts of money.

I was joking about Elmander. Although TBF it could be any one of a hundred bad signings we've made in the last 10 years.

And Gartside is the one who OK'd the signings and negotiated the contracts instead of going back to the managers and telling them to try harder. He pissed away the money instead of driving a hard bargain and keeping the managers in line as he should have done seeing as he was responsible for the money.

The player in question is Liam Feeney

Wilkinson has joined Pompey on loan

Makes sense.

They're the only football club in the league with less money than us and he's utterly shit.

Some tweets from Nixon -

Stephen Dobbie could be joining the Bolton exodus...more later.

Reading going to try luck with a new bid for young Holding at Bolton ...

Bolton. Jay Spearing due 400k at end of contract. Can't see him leaving before then ... without a huge pay off. Don't blame him.

i don't understand contracts these days, why does he get 400K at the end of his contract? Hasn't he sponged enough from the club with his massive wages? It's no wonder we are in such a mess

Norpig wrote:i don't understand contracts these days, why does he get 400K at the end of his contract? Hasn't he sponged enough from the club with his massive wages? It's no wonder we are in such a mess

Exactly. Whoever negotiated these ridiculous contracts was either completely inept or just taking the piss. Why would you give someone a 400k payoff when their contract ends? The mind boggles.

Norpig wrote:i don't understand contracts these days, why does he get 400K at the end of his contract? Hasn't he sponged enough from the club with his massive wages? It's no wonder we are in such a mess

In my experience of dealing with standard Football League contracts they include a clause providing players'with a "Loyalty bonus" providing they are with the club on the 30th June. A loan move now would not stop entitlement as Spearing still contracted to us. It may however in the circumstances of a transfer be built in to terms of the transfer. To my knowledge the "Loyalty bonus" clause has been included in contracts for players for over 30 years. For example a player on a 3 year contract will have entitlement to payment on the 30 June each year the contract is in place.

Think we're in the wrong job!

Bwfc1958 wrote:

Norpig wrote:i don't understand contracts these days, why does he get 400K at the end of his contract? Hasn't he sponged enough from the club with his massive wages? It's no wonder we are in such a mess

Exactly. Whoever negotiated these ridiculous contracts was either completely inept or just taking the piss. Why would you give someone a 400k payoff when their contract ends? The mind boggles.

A golden goodbye! But that contract was given when £400,000 was nothing to the club. Now it's life and death. Hindsight is cheap - but very informative. It makes you wonder about the mindset of the club senior executives even a couple of years ago. Who did they think we were as a club??
It makes you wonder how many other skeletons are in the cupboard. I won't bore you with technical stuff- but the next big bogey will be redundancy payments to sacked staff and the worst nightmare of all- pension payments to ex-employees

If Spearing's contract is terminated early i.e. now, will he be entitled to the full £3 million wages that he will receive if he stays with us until summer 2017? Or do we just have to give him £400k and be done with it?

These stories about players leaving keep creeping out but surely we have to at least try to sell all the seniors that are on massive wages next season?

It will be interesting to see how much of a fight the club put up to resign Woolery and Holding in the summer because unless they get rid of a few of the big earners we won't be able to offer them anything. Either way we have to put at least 10 senior players on the market (in addition to those whose contracts are up) just to get somewhere near the right level of expenditure and give us a chance of rebuilding from scratch.

Barryjw wrote:

Norpig wrote:i don't understand contracts these days, why does he get 400K at the end of his contract? Hasn't he sponged enough from the club with his massive wages? It's no wonder we are in such a mess

In my experience of dealing with standard Football League contracts they include a clause providing players'with a "Loyalty bonus" providing they are with the club on the 30th June. A loan move now would not stop entitlement as Spearing still contracted to us. It may however in the circumstances of a transfer be built in to terms of the transfer. To my knowledge the "Loyalty bonus" clause has been included in contracts for players for over 30 years. For example a player on a 3 year contract will have entitlement to payment on the 30 June each year the contract is in place.

Think we're in the wrong job!

i'm glad you put loyalty bonus in inverted comma's Barry  
 So they get a bonus just for staying till the end of their contract whether they stay or leave? The business part of football is bonkers

The more you read the more you despair of the whole situation.