Brexit - A new twist!

Norpig · **221** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 16:09

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i'm not so sure Copper, we are going to have a real problem with trying to get the dossers in this country to do these low paid jobs that are being done by immigrants, they see it as being beneath them

I'd much rather have someone from abroad such as a Pole coming here and getting a job, contributing and paying taxes than the career dole underclass we have in this country who have never done a days work and probably never will

xmiles · **222** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 16:36

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RustyNail wrote:I work in the criminal justice system and so when I voted out I did it because I firmly believe we should be able to pick and choose who we want in the country.
The crime figures are disproportional for people from certain countries. For example, there are loads of polish people in Bolton yet I have only had a couple on my books in the past 4 years. Yet I have had dozens of Romanian and Hungarians, even though they are here in much smaller numbers.

This isnt relevant to brexit but a lot of people have criticised the amount of refugees we took from Syria. However, Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population. These are facts not opinion.

I barely heard a single decent argument during the months of debate before the vote so I have based my opinion on my own knowledge of crime figures which show that certain nationalities are committing far more crimes than others. Why would you want them in the country?

I can't really follow your logic on this Rusty. You say you based your vote on your knowledge of crime figures and yet you say that "Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population." But as you surely know these people are immigrants from countries NOT in the EU and I very much doubt that many of them are from Syria.

gloswhite · **223** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 17:13

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Glos: unemployment figures are expressed as a percentage of the working population so the total number is irrelevant.
This may be true, but in reality, I actually remember there being a real choice of jobs when I was younger, rather than have anything from 20 to 200 people applying for each one, as it is nowadays.

boltonbonce · **224** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 17:37

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I remember going to the Youth Employment office in Farnworth,where I was asked,'What would you like to do?'
Had a huge choice at the time. If I didn't like one job,I could go back and try something else.
Seems crazy when I look back.

Cajunboy · **225** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 18:00

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Are you a bus driver?

No, I've never had a Chip Shop.

boltonbonce · **226** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 18:07

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Cajunboy wrote:Are you a bus driver?

No, I've never had a Chip Shop.

I've never driven a bus. What a nightmare for the passengers that would be.
It's just that,the older I get the more an old bus gets me going.
I also have a disturbing interest in railway station chocolate bar vending machines.
Now,if my lift turns up,I'm off to the match.

RustyNail · **227** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 18:52

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xmiles wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the criminal justice system and so when I voted out I did it because I firmly believe we should be able to pick and choose who we want in the country.
The crime figures are disproportional for people from certain countries. For example, there are loads of polish people in Bolton yet I have only had a couple on my books in the past 4 years. Yet I have had dozens of Romanian and Hungarians, even though they are here in much smaller numbers.

This isnt relevant to brexit but a lot of people have criticised the amount of refugees we took from Syria. However, Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population. These are facts not opinion.

I barely heard a single decent argument during the months of debate before the vote so I have based my opinion on my own knowledge of crime figures which show that certain nationalities are committing far more crimes than others. Why would you want them in the country?

I can't really follow your logic on this Rusty. You say you based your vote on your knowledge of crime figures and yet you say that "Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population." But as you surely know these people are immigrants from countries NOT in the EU and I very much doubt that many of them are from Syria.

Try reading again. I've put it in bold to help you.

xmiles · **228** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 19:43

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RustyNail wrote:

xmiles wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the criminal justice system and so when I voted out I did it because I firmly believe we should be able to pick and choose who we want in the country.
The crime figures are disproportional for people from certain countries. For example, there are loads of polish people in Bolton yet I have only had a couple on my books in the past 4 years. Yet I have had dozens of Romanian and Hungarians, even though they are here in much smaller numbers.

This isnt relevant to brexit but a lot of people have criticised the amount of refugees we took from Syria. However, Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population. These are facts not opinion.

I barely heard a single decent argument during the months of debate before the vote so I have based my opinion on my own knowledge of crime figures which show that certain nationalities are committing far more crimes than others. Why would you want them in the country?

I can't really follow your logic on this Rusty. You say you based your vote on your knowledge of crime figures and yet you say that "Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders, again the figures are massively disproportional to the population." But as you surely know these people are immigrants from countries NOT in the EU and I very much doubt that many of them are from Syria.

Try reading again. I've put it in bold to help you.

So you voted Leave "based my opinion on my own knowledge of crime figures which show that certain nationalities are committing far more crimes than others" and these nationalities are not "Asian and\or muslim male sex offenders" or Poles but Romanians and Hungarians.

However the UK always had the power "to pick and choose who we want in the country". See for example this below, it's just that no government chose to exercise these powers because employers wanted cheap labour:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi7lf2dxbPSAhVnLMAKHc6CAFAQFgg1MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Flawyers-inforbritain.uk%2Fb-m-a%2Fcan-the-uk-control-its-borders-if-it-remains-in-the-eu%2F&usg=AFQjCNEppdmkiP6wgQ0jHpGMHE3Dg9iASA&sig2=_z5OzlQwgLTSOUuQpjN-wQ

RustyNail · **229** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 21:24

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I can't be arsed reading your link, particularly as it doesn't look like the world's most official website. Why on earth would the remain camp not use that as an argument if what you are saying is accurate? And why would all sides pretend otherwise for all of these years? Doesn't make sense to me.

xmiles · **230** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Feb 28 2017, 22:19

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If you read the link you would find out.

It is completely factual not opinion.

wanderlust · **231** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Tue Mar 28 2017, 14:38

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Not quite sure what to make of this, but a number of MPs have walked out of the Commons Brexit Select Committee as they consider the committees' contribution towards the Brexit White Paper to be "too gloomy".

The report sets out what the Government's goals should be in the Brexit negotitions. Here's the story.

The Select Committee is an all-party working group chaired by Hilary Benn (a Remainer) so maybe the protesters are thinking it's just negative propaganda a la "Project Fear" but with Brexit champion David Davis having already U turned on immigration this week I'm struggling to see what they want it to say without completely disregarding the reality and consequences of what we're doing. I know that worked in the referendum but surely the facts have to be faced sometime? At least that idiot Davis is starting to realise what's really happening.

What isn't clear is whether or not the protesters are planning to produce an alternative happy clappy report.

wanderlust · **232** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Wed Mar 29 2017, 12:01

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Here we go then. Article 50 day is finally upon us. Here's a summary of the key issues the negotiation team will face in the areas of Immigration, Security, Business, Defence, Health, Education, Science, the Environment, Farming and Fishing. I suppose other key issues are the massive amount of money we owe the EU and the unwillingness of several EU leaders to support a swift and clean exit but we'll find out more about that when negotiations commence.

Natasha Whittam · **233** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Wed Mar 29 2017, 12:19

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Is WWIII starting today then? Should I be stockpiling Twirls and Pepsi ahead of the predicted 500% price increase?

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wanderlust · **234** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Wed Mar 29 2017, 12:30

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Natasha Whittam wrote:Is WWIII starting today then? Should I be stockpiling Twirls and Pepsi ahead of the predicted 500% prince increase?

We will leave the EU two years from today although the negotiations about the terms and conditions of the exit could drag on much longer.
This is what will happen next,

wanderlust · **235** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Fri Mar 31 2017, 22:57

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EU rules out early trade talks with UK.

Which was expected as their obvious strategy would be to get UK committed to the point where we would have to accept whatever they offer.

This is the time for May and Davis to show a bit of strength i.e. "f*** that, we'll talk about it now or else...."

Now is the time for those Leave campaigners to show the world why they argued that we are so strong and why the EU "has no choice but to give us a good deal".

Come on then May - break out the big British stick we've heard so much about.

In your own time then.....

Bread2.0 · **236** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Sat Apr 01 2017, 00:59

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Stop whinging.

At least we'll be able to send all them foreigners back.

Them smelly ones. Dirty foreigners....Eurgh!

Apart from the ones we need to keep our factories going: They can stay.

We will always need 99p ready meals in a post-Brexit Britain, never forget that!

And the ones who clean the toilets at The Macron can stay.

Nobody likes a dirty bog. That's just not British, is it?

And the ones that we married.

Obviously.....they're not really foreign, are they?

They're like us, aren't they? They must be....?

Ooh, hang on a minute.....could they all be like that?

That'd never occurred to me before.

Are foreigners the same as us....? Nah, they can't be - We're British!

wanderlust · **237** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Sat Apr 01 2017, 12:13

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Bread2.0 wrote:

And the ones that we married.

Obviously.....they're not really foreign, are they?

Are foreigners the same as us....? Nah, they can't be - We're British!

Farage is German married to a German and Johnson is a Russian married to an Indian. But technically they're all British - whatever that is....

Maybe all leave voters have immigrant ancestry ?

Bread2.0 · **238** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Mon Apr 03 2017, 09:34

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One for Mr Pig.

If you mute the shouting, you should still be able to concentrate on the "matter in hand" and get a good rhythm going:

Norpig · **239** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Mon Apr 03 2017, 13:08

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too many other wankers on screen to concentrate fully on the lovely Susanna Very Happy

boltonbonce · **240** Re: Brexit - A new twist! Mon Apr 03 2017, 13:40

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Norpig wrote:too many other wankers on screen to concentrate fully on the lovely Susanna

Reid always strikes me as a bit of a tart.
I much prefer the class of historian Dr Suzannah Lipscomb.
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Norpig

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xmiles

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gloswhite

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boltonbonce

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Cajunboy

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