wanderlust wrote:Sluffy....
The viewpoint that the reason these nutters carry out the atrocities because they are nutters is not only the official position of the government but also the position of every mainstream party in the U.K.
Your viewpoint that they do it because they are Muslim is the position of the edl.
I know that this forum is your baby, but I would appreciate it if you stopped pedalling your fascist views on here.
What the fucking hell are you on about (again!)?
The people who are undertaking the atrocities in London, Manchester, Paris and Nice, etc, in the last year or so are extremists who count themselves as being part (or followers) of Islamic State.
Islamic State base themselves on an extreme form of Sunni Islamist belief (Wahhabism).
Those are factual statements.
Nowhere (except in your own head) will you find that I am anti Muslim.
I also don't agree that all those carrying on the murderous acts are necessarily 'nutters' as you say.
They are simply people who have been taught a view of religion that they wholeheartedly believe in - and part of which 'blesses' those who martyr themselves in the act of killing or maiming 'non-believers'.
Numerous people with intelligence have martyred themselves in recent years following this credo are you suggesting that every single one of them was a 'nutter'!?
In fact I would interested to see where it says that the Government and all mainstream political party's view them as 'nutters' as their official position as you claim - I doubt very much that they do.
Religion is based on belief and just because someone has a different belief to you or I doesn't necessarily make them a 'nutter'.
Religious extremism is the problem.
I know plenty of 'nutters' - I'm sure you do too - but only the zealously religious ones are prepared to martyr themselves. The rest might be angry or not too bright but they still aren't stupid enough to go and kill themselves just because they aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
Those who flew planes into stuff on 9/11 clearly had brains enough to learn how to fly - but they martyr themselves and killed thousands of innocent people (including fellow Muslims) in doing so.
It's the extremist belief they hold that is the problem and not that they are extremely stupid, angry or 'nutters'.