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1Electric and Driverless cars Empty Electric and Driverless cars on Thu Nov 23 2017, 20:43

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
I bloody dont want one.

2Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Thu Nov 23 2017, 21:04

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
If replacing the battery in electric cars wasn't so expensive I'd have one at the drop of a hat. 
Really fancy a Tesla Roadster although it's way too expensive. Still it's faster than a Ferrari and the next release claims to be the first car to do 0 - 60 in under 2 seconds.

3Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Thu Nov 23 2017, 21:18

Bollotom2014

Bollotom2014
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Of course the vehicles on the road with a driver are going to be a cause for concern as the driverless ones will still have to comply with the law. Going to be a whole new learning curve. And those lorries will still pull out and hold up traffic behind while overtaking.

4Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 08:35

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
As someone who doesn't drive i'd love a driverless car if they can be proved to be safe.

5Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 09:46

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Mr Pig, how have you got through life without being able to drive ? (although it must be at a much more relaxing pace that those of us who tend to whizz round all the time.)

6Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 10:26

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I have a licence Glos but haven't driven since around 2000. I was a late starter anyway and never really liked it to be honest. Whether that's because i didn't drive much after i passed my test or because i'm blind in one eye i'm not sure.

I can jump on the bus to work and pick up the kids from the childminders, so don't really see the need for a car that i wouldn't really use that much. It would be nice for things like days out and holidays and when the weather is bad but we get along fine without one i think.

7Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 10:47

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:I have a licence Glos but haven't driven since around 2000. I was a late starter anyway and never really liked it to be honest. Whether that's because i didn't drive much after i passed my test or because i'm blind in one eye i'm not sure.

I can jump on the bus to work and pick up the kids from the childminders, so don't really see the need for a car that i wouldn't really use that much. It would be nice for things like days out and holidays and when the weather is bad but we get along fine without one i think.
It must be nice to have the Mrs as a chauffeur. You don't have the issue of deciding who can have a drink if you both go out either! Very Happy 

I never thought you could have a driving license if you only had one functioning eye.

8Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 11:14

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes you can have a licence, we don't have a car at all KP, Mrs Pig is like me, she has a licence but doesn't like driving either. We are public transport experts  Very Happy

9Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 13:20

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
This has reminded me of when I left school and went on the bread vans for mothers pride as a helper the driver ken lost the sight in his left eye after a log fell on his head after his mate rolled it off a toilet roof collecting Bonny wood. I didn't know about it for ages but he used to scare the shit outa me because he went so close to parked vehicles in the bread truck then one morning on Alexandra rd moss side he pulled in to the left in front of a parked car to deliver to a shop and completely tore the front wing off the shop owners car. It made a horrendous noise and he said to me stop looking at it you're making it obvious he might not have heard it.

10Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 13:25

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:Yes you can have a licence, we don't have a car at all KP, Mrs Pig is like me, she has a licence but doesn't like driving either. We are public transport experts  Very Happy
Fair enough. Very Happy

11Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 13:29

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Still electric cars: cleaner, lighter, faster, safer - but for now a damned sight more expensive. Give it a few years until they become the mainstream and prices tumble and I'll be in there.

12Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 15:44

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Problem is that they don't go very far between needing to be charged up.
I'm in Scotland at the minute and I'd have to stop somewhere like Carlisle (halfway between Rammy and Stirling) to recharge and that assumes that there are free charging stations.
I'll stick to petrol for the time being.

13Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 15:57

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
The charging stations aren't free, so I'll assume free as not in use  Very Happy

When they finally get themselves sorted, I think I would open a cafe, with loads of chargers, and I'd make a mint, as no bugger can get past you, and all have to wait at least long enough for a cuppa.

14Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 16:00

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Once they've driven the diesels off the road, they'll be looking for new ways to tax us. Heard a comment yesterday that pollution is being added to by the wear of our tyres.

I'm expecting the council round any time soon, so that they can measure our nostrils, and charge us for the amount of air we can take in, in one sniff.

15Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 16:03

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
They sold diesels on the benefits of this and that. Slowly cranked up the tax on it, and are now putting it in the same category as cigarettes, allowing them to tax this new demon, as much as they see fit. It seems irrelevant that vehicles are a necessity, and that not everyone can afford a new hybrid, or super fast milk float, in as short a time as they seem to think. Also, instead of having chauffeur-driven diesel Jaguars, (as is mine), why don't they get driven about in a Nissan Leaf, just to show us the way ?

16Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 16:07

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
@gloswhite wrote:The charging stations aren't free, so I'll assume free as not in use  Very Happy

When they finally get themselves sorted, I think I would open a cafe, with loads of chargers, and I'd make a mint, as no bugger can get past you, and all have to wait at least long enough for a cuppa.

Thanks Glos- that's what I meant, free in the sense that no-one else is charging up and I have to sit somewhere for about 30 minutes waiting for them to finish. Its no fun when you're driving home in lousy weather on a cold night.

17Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 16:27

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Every year at this time we often here that if it's a hard winter there may be power cuts , because of the lack of capacity in the power industry.

So where is all this extra electricity going to come from, to charge and recharge all these vehicles?

Will they have to have a solar panel on the roof?

18Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 19:42

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
120 miles that's not going to work.

19Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 19:47

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
What about classic cars? I have a lot of money invested in a 68 bullet mustang that ain't gonna run on electricity and neither are those fuckin great big Air Liners. The roads are gonna bit littered with broke down electric cars and you won't be just bombing up to Scotland from London in a day. It's a load of bollox it won't work.

20Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Fri Nov 24 2017, 22:50

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Its a good idea, but the infrastructure, planning and construction are so far behind the ideas currently being pushed, that its gong to cause problems for so many people, probably in the form of taxes as we cannot afford to carry out our masters wishes on time.

21Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Sat Nov 25 2017, 09:36

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
If they didn’t make Diesel an uneconomical choice then consumers would still be buying them. Nudge theory doesn’t work in the UK, too many people are only concerned with how much it’s going to cost them rather than any wider benefits. 

Credit to the government on this, an unpopular but undeniably correct move is exactly the sort they should be making but rarely do.

22Electric and Driverless cars Empty Re: Electric and Driverless cars on Sat Nov 25 2017, 14:00

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@rammywhite wrote:Problem is that they don't go very far between needing to be charged up.
I'm in Scotland at the minute and I'd have to stop somewhere like Carlisle (halfway between Rammy and Stirling) to recharge and that assumes that there are free charging stations.
I'll stick to petrol for the time being.
Whilst the current BMWs do 250 miles on a charge, the new technology is moving on very quickly creating shorter charging times and longer distances per charge. As uptake continues to rise, petrol stations will start to be phased out to make more room for charging points, but for now....
You need one of these. A range of 620 miles on one charge and does 250 mph as standard - faster with the add ons.

And one thing electric cars can do that petrol cars can't is fill up at home e.g. at night to take advantage of economy rates and they are unaffected by our annual petrol shortages, pollution charges and sudden price hikes from being held to ransom by the Arabs/Russians or our own Government ekeing out a bit more tax.

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