I think we should wait and see how he applies himself now he has the captaincy, (really ?), and a family. We know he can play when he wants to, and here's hoping that he finds a new passion for the game.
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742 Re: Transfer rumours ! Mon Aug 27 2018, 15:15
observer
Andy Walker
We lost £7,000,000 by selling Gary Cahill in January... should have sold him for the full season for £14 million. Again, if Vela is not going to re-sign with us, take the money and run.T.R.O.Y wrote:Doubt Parky wants rid, also doubt any clubs would pay a fee for him. Possibly the club trying to trigger some interest so we don’t lose him for nothing.
In the hypothetical situation someone came in, I’d sell - on the proviso that money would actually be used to sign a striker.
743 Re: Transfer rumours ! Mon Aug 27 2018, 15:41
Guest
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Don’t follow your logic on Madine to be honest.
744 Re: Transfer rumours ! Mon Aug 27 2018, 18:42
Nigelbwfc
Nicolas Anelka
Can't see how we lost £7million on Madine.observer wrote:We lost £7,000,000 by selling Gary Cahill in January... should have sold him for the full season for £14 million. Again, if Vela is not going to re-sign with us, take the money and run.T.R.O.Y wrote:Doubt Parky wants rid, also doubt any clubs would pay a fee for him. Possibly the club trying to trigger some interest so we don’t lose him for nothing.
In the hypothetical situation someone came in, I’d sell - on the proviso that money would actually be used to sign a striker.
745 Re: Transfer rumours ! Mon Aug 27 2018, 19:12
luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Madine? Observer said Cahill and to be honest he has a point but not in comparison to Vela. In his wildest dreams Vela's never worth more than 7 million anyway. In fact if we got an offer of 1 million plus I'd think hard about it and if it was 2 mil or more I'd rip their hand off. Vela's another one of those who looked so promising in the dev squad but isn't cutting it at 1st team level. I think L1 is honestly where he belongs. I'm all for giving players time but imo Vela's never going to be the player we need.
746 Re: Transfer rumours ! Mon Aug 27 2018, 20:02
observer
Andy Walker
LPP - I was only making a comparison of how we lost half of what we should have been paid by waiting until the January window. There was no attempt on my part to compare Vela with Cahill... only the loss of revenue by waiting. We lose leverage as it gets closer to any of them becoming free agents. KA is sharp... and will act accordingly (in my humble opinion).luckyPeterpiper wrote:Madine? Observer said Cahill and to be honest he has a point but not in comparison to Vela. In his wildest dreams Vela's never worth more than 7 million anyway. In fact if we got an offer of 1 million plus I'd think hard about it and if it was 2 mil or more I'd rip their hand off. Vela's another one of those who looked so promising in the dev squad but isn't cutting it at 1st team level. I think L1 is honestly where he belongs. I'm all for giving players time but imo Vela's never going to be the player we need.
747 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 12:16
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
With the loan window closing this week, we need to get at least one striker in, any bets on it not happening?
748 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 12:20
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Norpig wrote:With the loan window closing this week, we need to get at least one striker in, any bets on it not happening?
He'll bring someone nobody's ever heard of in at 5 to midnight on Friday.
749 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 12:30
BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
That would be too late as its shuts as 5PM doesn't it
750 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 13:30
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
BoltonTillIDie wrote:That would be too late as its shuts as 5PM doesn't it
BTID- you're a stickler for detail!!
751 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 13:34
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
About this Madine thing - is it being suggested that somebody would have paid £14 million if he'd been sold at a different time? If so, that's ridiculous. We only just about managed to scrape the money we got because Cardiff were absolutely desperate to consolidate their promotion push and they have more money than sense.
As regards getting a striker in, Anderson has got away with spending a mere £200k in the transfer window so we're still short of the quality we would need in the midfield to justify playing two strikers at the same time other than in "desperate, we need a goal" emergencies like Forest last season. Accordingly I can't see us getting another out and out striker other than to act as cover for Magennis. An attack minded number 10 could work though and Forestieri can do that. And I have faith in Boggers.
As regards getting a striker in, Anderson has got away with spending a mere £200k in the transfer window so we're still short of the quality we would need in the midfield to justify playing two strikers at the same time other than in "desperate, we need a goal" emergencies like Forest last season. Accordingly I can't see us getting another out and out striker other than to act as cover for Magennis. An attack minded number 10 could work though and Forestieri can do that. And I have faith in Boggers.
752 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 13:39
observer
Andy Walker
Lusty... I assume this has to do with my post that we sold Cahill in January and took half of what he was worth... especially when he could have left on a free in July. Nigel then took that and mentioned Madine... which has nothing to do with the post. The point I was trying to make was to get full value and sell on with a year remaining, since there is rapid depreciation as we head to the end of one's contract... in this case, Vela (assuming he does not want to re-sign with the club). I went on to say that KA has business acumen, and won't let the clock run down on any player who does not want to stay with the club.wanderlust wrote:About this Madine thing - is it being suggested that somebody would have paid £14 million if he'd been sold at a different time? If so, that's ridiculous. We only just about managed to scrape the money we got because Cardiff were absolutely desperate to consolidate their promotion push and they have more money than sense.
As regards getting a striker in, Anderson has got away with spending a mere £200k in the transfer window so we're still short of the quality we would need in the midfield to justify playing two strikers at the same time other than in "desperate, we need a goal" emergencies like Forest last season. Accordingly I can't see us getting another out and out striker other than to act as cover for Magennis. An attack minded number 10 could work though and Forestieri can do that. And I have faith in Boggers.
753 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 13:41
Guest
Guest
Why would Forestieri be coming here?
Don’t think a 10 is priority, when we have Vela and Oztumer.
Don’t think a 10 is priority, when we have Vela and Oztumer.
754 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:01
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Cahill I agree with, Madine no chance so thanks for clarifying.observer wrote:Lusty... I assume this has to do with my post that we sold Cahill in January and took half of what he was worth... especially when he could have left on a free in July. Nigel then took that and mentioned Madine... which has nothing to do with the post. The point I was trying to make was to get full value and sell on with a year remaining, since there is rapid depreciation as we head to the end of one's contract... in this case, Vela (assuming he does not want to re-sign with the club). I went on to say that KA has business acumen, and won't let the clock run down on any player who does not want to stay with the club.wanderlust wrote:About this Madine thing - is it being suggested that somebody would have paid £14 million if he'd been sold at a different time? If so, that's ridiculous. We only just about managed to scrape the money we got because Cardiff were absolutely desperate to consolidate their promotion push and they have more money than sense.
As regards getting a striker in, Anderson has got away with spending a mere £200k in the transfer window so we're still short of the quality we would need in the midfield to justify playing two strikers at the same time other than in "desperate, we need a goal" emergencies like Forest last season. Accordingly I can't see us getting another out and out striker other than to act as cover for Magennis. An attack minded number 10 could work though and Forestieri can do that. And I have faith in Boggers.
755 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:01
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Because Boggers said it was nailed on?T.R.O.Y wrote:Why would Forestieri be coming here?
Don’t think a 10 is priority, when we have Vela and Oztumer.
756 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:01
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Rangers in for Beevers again apparently.
757 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:05
MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
Source?wanderlust wrote:Rangers in for Beevers again apparently.
758 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:28
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]MartinBWFC wrote:Source?wanderlust wrote:Rangers in for Beevers again apparently.
and same source quoted in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Probably bollocks but this is a rumours thread.
759 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 14:31
MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
Fair enough hope it's true, less hoof ob show.wanderlust wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
and same source quoted in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Probably bollocks but this is a rumours thread.
760 Re: Transfer rumours ! Tue Aug 28 2018, 21:49
Nigelbwfc
Nicolas Anelka
How do we replace him? We can't even replace AlfMartinBWFC wrote:Fair enough hope it's true, less hoof ob show.wanderlust wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
and same source quoted in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Probably bollocks but this is a rumours thread.
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