Brexit negotiations

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

Dunkels King wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:If a party decides not to carry through with a manifesto promise in a general election (in other words lie) does that mean we should re-run the election and that the initial vote for that party was not the "will of the people"

Actually it does in my opinion, but like I said a whole host of different things are up for change. I worked under both Conservative and Labour Governments in the UK, and neither of them made a single difference to me. I don’t think I was ever better off or worse off under either. I always voted Conservative. For me, neither of the main parties are fit to Govern. At the moment the Conservative leader is a proven liar and the Labour leader doesn’t want the job so floats around in the background. It’s interesting that he still goes against the largest demographic of his voters by still wanting Brexit, but that fits nicely if you are a Socialist.

We'll we certainly agree there.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Yes he's quite clear on brexit.

He wants to negotiate a NEW customs union and NEW single market. But still leave.

Genius and obviously very plausible stuff.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Yes he's quite clear on brexit.

He wants to negotiate a NEW customs union and NEW single market. But still leave.

Genius and obviously very plausible stuff.

wanderlust wrote:Next Prime Minister will be Sir Keir Starmer KCB QC

Cajunboy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:Next Prime Minister will be Sir Keir Starmer KCB QC

So you think the Labour party will have the sense to ditch Corbyn before the next general election?

It seems very unlikely.

T.R.O.Y wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Yes he's quite clear on brexit.

He wants to negotiate a NEW customs union and NEW single market. But still leave.

Genius and obviously very plausible stuff.

We’ll probably never know how a labour negotiation would go, but at least the internal market was an ambitious proposal which would have limited the economic impact of Brexit. Far better than anything the Tories put forward in two years of negotiations, but Labour aren’t limited by harder leave factions like the ERG, who will accept economic loss for ideological gain.

May desperate for a deal while promising things only no deal could deliver has left us with next to nothing.

T.R.O.Y wrote:Norway aren’t in the EU, Labour want a similar deal to that. It seems as though you think only your version of Brexit is valid, anything else is just a cop out.

T.R.O.Y wrote:I know, thats why they coined the ‘internal market’. But let’s face it, we’d pursue a ‘Norway plus’ deal but more likely end up with something very similar to what they have.

If you’d be happy with a Norway deal I don’t understand what your issue is with labours position is to be honest.