Brexit negotiations

Exactly. 

Only one campaign gets 24/7 coverage in the media for its lies though.

Strange that.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:On the 9th of May, the 27 EU leaders will usher in a new dawn, with a very special summit that will pave the way for a stronger, more united and more democratic Europe. #EURoad2Sibiu 

Crikey. Didn't see this on my ballot paper. Quite deceptive of the remain campaign to say a vote to remain was a vote for the status quo.

Eh? What’s the issue with their plans for the future?

What are their plans. We weren't told during the referendum. Might have been nice to know so I knew what I was voting for.

Published in 2017:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/future-europe/white-paper-future-europe/white-paper-future-europe-five-scenarios_en

The referendum was In 2016.

I genuinely don’t understand why they’re not allowed to have a plan for their future? Should they wind it up because we’re out?

Well I wish our Government was more communicative about their future plans.
I'm wondering what the tax rises they are proposing are and I don't fully understand how this defeat for May will limit their options on raising taxes - need to check it out.

T.R.O.Y wrote:I genuinely don’t understand why they’re not allowed to have a plan for their future? Should they wind it up because we’re out?

I think you're missing the point.

They should have told you their plans for the future in 2016 - despite them being released a year later.

No mention of an EU army in there by the way.

T.R.O.Y wrote:They should have told you their plans for the future in 2016 - despite them being released a year later.

No mention of an EU army in there by the way.

Or the 70 million Turks who are all moving to England for that matter.

T.R.O.Y wrote:They should have told you their plans for the future in 2016 - despite them being released a year later.

No mention of an EU army in there by the way.

Well if it's expected of the leave side. Why can't I expect the same for the remain side? Quite simple really.

Bercow, the insufferable weasel desperately trying to block brexit. Abusing his position.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Bercow, the insufferable weasel desperately trying to block brexit. Abusing his position.

Have you actually read Erskine May then given that it defines his position?

No No Deal

Just get on with the people's vote and have it done with.

wanderlust wrote:No No Deal

Just get on with the people's vote and have it done with.

Yet another defeat for May.

wanderlust wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Bercow, the insufferable weasel desperately trying to block brexit. Abusing his position.

Have you actually read Erskine May then given that it defines his position?

No but I'm sure an expert such as yourself will be able to enlighten us better than the commons clerks.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote:They should have told you their plans for the future in 2016 - despite them being released a year later.

No mention of an EU army in there by the way.

Well if it's expected of the leave side. Why can't I expect the same for the remain side? Quite simple really.

The remain side was to maintain the status quo. Of which a future ‘vision’ is clearly a known part of it. At least as part of it we’d have a say in its direction.

The reason the onus is on Leave to define Brexit is obvious - there were numerous variations on what Brexit means. Two years later it’s not defined, that lack of direction has fucked us.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Bercow, the insufferable weasel desperately trying to block brexit. Abusing his position.

Have you actually read Erskine May then given that it defines his position?

No but I'm sure an expert such as yourself will be able to enlighten us better than the commons clerks.

So you're saying that the Commons clerks are suggesting Berkow abused his position? Where's that then?
Or is it just you?

wanderlust wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Bercow, the insufferable weasel desperately trying to block brexit. Abusing his position.

Have you actually read Erskine May then given that it defines his position?

No but I'm sure an expert such as yourself will be able to enlighten us better than the commons clerks.

So you're saying that the Commons clerks are suggesting Berkow abused his position? Where's that then?
Or is it just you?

Must have missed the bit in my last post where I said that.