Lusty permanently banned?

This is aimed directly at Sluffy, have you permanently banned Lusty now?

He's sent me a message saying it was originally a one week ban but you've made it permanent, what is your justification for this?

I think this should be put to a vote as i see no reason why he should be banned. Your excuse that he is abusive is nonsense and you were just as bad at throwing out insults when you two were going at it.

Who else want's to see Lusty back?

Not a bit.

A permanent ban is ridiculous, as the mods well know.

Perhaps BTID will do something about it?

This won't happen on Chorley Nuts.

I've been wondering about this myself. Did Breadman die in vain?

Pretty soon Sluffy will be arguing with himself. The ban must be lifted.

Agreed, do the right thing Sluffy. You can’t ban posters because you don’t like their opinions, it defeats the object of the site.

What did i miss?

Bring him back I say

Them two re still going at it hammer and tongs on WW, they just can't help themselves, well TBF Sluffy is the most aggressive of the two.

He added a bit of spice to the forum. I'd have him back as he never insulted me in any way

He's been banned.

He's been warned for his abuse many, many times.

He's been banned for his abuse a number times.

So he clearly didn't care did he?

His last ban wasn't intended to be permanent but what did he do - he went straight on to WanderersWay to personally abuse me even more!

There was never going to be an end to it, so not much point allowing it to continue really was there?

My patience with him finally ran out.

I'm as tolerant as most (and I couldn't give a fuck if people believe that or not) but I've simply had enough paying out of my own pocket to fund this site simply so one person in particular could carry on posting daily abuse at me. He, like Bread, thinks that they were some how bigger than this site and above the law, he's found out - just like Bread did - that he isn't.

If you or anyone else wants to put their hand in their pocket and start a new forum then go ahead, no one is stopping you.  

Best of luck with it though because you will most certainly need it, sooner or later!

@MartinBWFC wrote:Them two re still going at it hammer and tongs on WW, they just can't help themselves, well TBF Sluffy is the most aggressive of the two.

I take issue with this Martin.

Despite the insults posted at me from him on Wanderers Ways, the only thing I've done is to post a reply to explained why he had been banned and only did so because it shouldn't be an ongoing issue that concerned another forum.

Can’t ban somebody because you don’t like them, then say you’re tolerant. We’re not idiots.

@Sluffy wrote:Please keep your WW arguments off Nuts

@Sluffy wrote:He's been banned.

He's been warned for his abuse many, many times.

He's been banned for his abuse a number times.

So he clearly didn't care did he?

His last ban wasn't intended to be permanent but what did he do - he went straight on to WanderersWay to personally abuse me even more!

There was never going to be an end to it, so not much point allowing it to continue really was there?

My patience with him finally ran out.

I'm as tolerant as most (and I couldn't give a fuck if people believe that or not) but I've simply had enough paying out of my own pocket to fund this site simply so one person in particular could carry on posting daily abuse at me. He, like Bread, thinks that they were some how bigger than this site and above the law, he's found out - just like Bread did - that he isn't.

If you or anyone else wants to put their hand in their pocket and start a new forum then go ahead, no one is stopping you.  

Best of luck with it though because you will most certainly need it, sooner or later!

So basically, fuck off if you don't like it. Consider me fucked off. It was fun while it lasted.

@Natasha Whittam wrote:

@Sluffy wrote:Please keep your WW arguments off Nuts

Note sure what you aren't understanding or if you are meaning this as a joke?

Wanderlust was given a ban about 6 weeks or so ago and went on to Wways and started to post on there abusing me.

He came back to Nuts when his ban expired and continue to be abusive and was yet again warned.

He disregarded the warnings and carried on much as normal

He was banned again.

He simply returned to Wways and continued posting his views of me.

I haven't bit until a day or so ago where I felt the reason for his ban needed to be spelt out in order to cut short the ongoing diatribe from him - as it had nothing to do with Wways or their posters.

Clearly nothings going to change if he returned to Nuts so we may as well bow to the inevitability of it all, which we have.

What’s the point in posting if only one opinion is allowed to be pushed. Might as well all move over to WW.

Forum is better for it. Let's just leave it at that.

@boltonbonce wrote:

@Sluffy wrote:He's been banned.

He's been warned for his abuse many, many times.

He's been banned for his abuse a number times.

So he clearly didn't care did he?

His last ban wasn't intended to be permanent but what did he do - he went straight on to WanderersWay to personally abuse me even more!

There was never going to be an end to it, so not much point allowing it to continue really was there?

My patience with him finally ran out.

I'm as tolerant as most (and I couldn't give a fuck if people believe that or not) but I've simply had enough paying out of my own pocket to fund this site simply so one person in particular could carry on posting daily abuse at me. He, like Bread, thinks that they were some how bigger than this site and above the law, he's found out - just like Bread did - that he isn't.

If you or anyone else wants to put their hand in their pocket and start a new forum then go ahead, no one is stopping you.  

Best of luck with it though because you will most certainly need it, sooner or later!

So basically, fuck off if you don't like it. Consider me fucked off. It was fun while it lasted.

If you want to take it like that, then that's up to you.

I consider putting up with abuse from someone for the best part of three years long enough.

If you think I should put up with it for longer - whilst being the person who funds the site - then you entitled to your opinion but frankly I've had enough of it - any reasonable person would have done the same (and a great deal sooner than I have!).

If you want to leave the forum because of me doing so, then that's your choice.

Thanks for everything and all the best to you in the future.

T.R.O.Y wrote:What’s the point in posting if only one opinion is allowed to be pushed. Might as well all move over to WW.

It was the ABUSE he was banned for and never the opinion.

We have BTID with an avatar expressing his opinion of Anderson and Norpig is pretty straightforward about his views of him too, so are many more on here, including Growler and Nigelbwfc, who basically only come on here to post their views on KA!

I've never stopped any of them expressing their opinions.

I'm also not the only mod who has banned Wanderlust, and not the only person he's abused which caused him to be banned also.

He chose to be abusive and would not stop when repeatedly asked to do so.

He knew what he was doing.

I can think of one or two others who are/were far more abusive, loutish and deserving of a ban. 

It seemed to me that Bread and Lusty only went too far when they'd had one too many, usually in the small hours, but they were very bright, interesting and entertaining.

Next time Karly pops up and calls me a twat I’ll expect him to be banned then if that’s the standards we’re being held to now.

I don't remember any real "abuse". I remember the odd "moonman" and "muppet" but if that's the bar for abuse no one will be left by August.

I'm sorry Nat but you must have selective memory if you really mean that. Lusty didn't only fire personal abuse at sluffy or even me. He fired it around a lot and drove some posters off the site with it, notably y2johnny who was subjected to such disgusting personal abuse I personally formally complained to sluffy about it and I wasn't alone. Yes y2j did come back after a bit but in all honesty had I been sluffy I'd have banned lusty permanently for that incident alone.

I'm all for freedom of speech and differing opinions form a good basis for lively and intelligent debate but what lusty was doing was nothing short of cyber bullying. After the event he would try to claim it was a 'joke' and the victim of his latest diatribe was to blame for having a thin skin but the truth is lusty has become a nasty piece of work over the last two years especially. I for one won't miss him even though at his best he was an enjoyable person to debate with. Unfortunately his best was all too infrequent and his worst was rapidly becoming his average.

LPP can you quote any of this abuse?

So basically Sluffy pays for the site so he can do what he wants? I'm serious now how much does it actually cost to keep this site going? I'm pretty sure we could all chip in and pay between us to avoid megalomaniacs like Sluffy having carte blanche to run this site as a dictatorship.

T.R.O.Y wrote:LPP can you quote any of this abuse?

I'll start with the one that got me incensed when addressed to y2j.

"So your username is the one thing your parents wish they'd thought of the night you were conceived?"

And no, it wasn't tongue in cheek or in any way an attempt at humour. It was the last in a whole series of ever more abusive posts from lusty to johnny on a single thread. I'm sorry I don't remember which one specifically, I haven't had time as yet to trawl through them all but it is indicative of lusty's state of mind especially when anyone disagreed with his "Ken Anderson is Beelzebub" rants.

If you're really interested in other specific comments from lusty to other posters check out pretty much any KA based thread of the last twelve months.

@Norpig wrote:So basically Sluffy pays for the site so he can do what he wants? I'm serious now how much does it actually cost to keep this site going? I'm pretty sure we could all chip in and pay between us to avoid megalomaniacs like Sluffy having carte blanche to run this site as a dictatorship.

Dear God listen to yourself!

Nuts has been going for over SEVEN years and in all that time I've fully banned THREE people yet according to you I'm a 'megalomaniac', 'dictator', running the site 'carte blanche'!

I tell you what mate, if you aren't too fussed how a forum looks you can probably still find some that are free to operate.  The price for how we run Nuts with no adverts for members or guests has recently shot up to something like £100 a year.

Easily affordable, so please feel free to set one up and enjoy yourself without having to deal with a 'Hitler' like me (as Wanderlust was describing me as on Wways and which prompted me to have to explain why he was banned from here).

I'm sure you'll have a great time with him, Bread and no doubt a multitude of fake accounts that will suddenly spring up out of nowhere.

Everything no doubt will be brilliant for you at first until you have to act to keep the peace, or mod what someone has posted that goes far to far, or tell someone to behave, or otherwise take some action to keep your forum as good as you can make it for EVERYONE, and then the shit will start to come your way.

Did you not even wonder why Wanderlust sent a message to you when he could easily have just sent one to me saying something like 'look mate nothing personal, I don't agree with you over Anderson and maybe have got a bit more abusive with you than perhaps I should have done.  How about giving me a fresh start a drawing a line under all of this?'

He clearly knew he could play you and get the reaction he has out of you.

So I say please go for it, start up your own forum, enjoy yourself with Wanderlust and Bread, I'm sure you could do a infinitely better job of it than megalomaniac little old me has done over the years on Nuts.

Until you piss someone off that is.

I was thinking more of us regulars paying to run this site and take it out of your hands to be honest sluffy, you are killing this site and you just can't see it.
As for Lustys message to me, it simply said he had been banned permanently and that he was now posting on WW, so how have i been played? 
Is it coincidence that my reply to Lusty is stlll sat in my outbox and hasn't gone out? I sent a PM to boncey and that went straight away.

Guys it's a bloody football forum.

Let's chill out.

I used to take the forums way way to seriously when NAT used to wind me up something rotten. I look back now and cringe at my behaviour.

@Norpig wrote:I was thinking more of us regulars paying to run this site and take it out of your hands to be honest sluffy, you are killing this site and you just can't see it.
As for Lustys message to me, it simply said he had been banned permanently and that he was now posting on WW, so how have i been played? 
Is it coincidence that my reply to Lusty is stlll sat in my outbox and hasn't gone out? I sent a PM to boncey and that went straight away.

Well you thought wrong if you think I would put seven years of my life and several hundred pounds of my money, taking loads of abuse from one or two people who clearly believe they have the right to do that to people who simply disagree with them over nothing much on an internet forum, and simply walk away because you want me to!

If you want to run a forum your way and without me 'killing it' then go and build one yourself.

Then you can deal with your own mad house where people go out of their way to get others banned, then plot to take control of the site and throw you off it when you don't; where people attempt to track you down and hack into your personal life because they are mentalists and can't understand that the internet is not real and going after you in real life is not what normal mentally stable people do; you can put up with three years of abuse from someone who clearly thinks that absolutely fine to do that just simply because he believes he's right and I'm wrong over something neither of us knows about until the facts come out; you can deal with those who make a game out of trying to wind you up and argue you to death; the fake accounts that people hide behind to disrupt and drive away real posters; deal with the friends and mates of those you have modded or banned because their behaviour was wrong but they still want them reinstated nevertheless and me to walk away in order for them to do so apparently?

But hey I must be wrong - it's ME killing the site apparently and non of them!

Well go ahead show me how to run the perfect forum then, where everything is sweetness and light and everybody gets on even when their opinions clash.

No, it's certainly not a coincidence if you can't reply to a person who has already been banned coming on the site in the middle of the night with a blatantly obvious new account for the sole purpose of contacting just you.

And if you don't think you've been played then ask yourself why he targeted just you to contact when he had the opportunity to tell everybody he wanted to by personal message and even leave a post on the forum himself for everyone to see.  

He must have had a reason surely to target just you and you only don't you think?

I do!