Ten Bobsworth wrote:I quite agree that its better to hold your hand up if you inadvertently get something wrong, Sluffy. So thank you.Sluffy wrote:
I never thought anyone would?
Unlike most I've never been afraid to admit to having made a mistake or simply being wrong and this is exactly what I've done here.
I saw that you had used my incorrect figures and apologised for unintentionally misleading you.
That in my book is the right thing to do.
Up to you if you want to accept it or not - I've done what I needed to do.
I've done my own figures now. The most interesting thing about all this is that the shares in Sharon's name no longer amount to overall control.
That caught my eye too and really was the reason I went sniffing around BMLL Ltd to see if I could somehow see who they were (could it me Mason funding the club another way perhaps?).
Obviously there was nothing to find other than the accounts seemed to be factually wrong (if FV's statement of ownership for Jan 23 was factually right?).
Anyway another 'lead' I followed from the change in share ownership percentages I worked out above was that all the Ordinary shares sold in 2023 were to BMLL, so all the money they spent buying them, there were three issues Jan, July and Oct which I calculated totalled to £5.25m bought themselves 11.5% additional share ownership, which would value FV at just over £45m.
I also noticed something trivial but at the same time got me thinking.
The shares bought in Jan 23 were at £6.52674 but it increased to £6.67982 in July (and stayed the same price in October) - why the increase?
Ok not much just 15p per share but why had they gone up?
IF those investing via BMLL Ltd (the so called Swiss consortium - are there others too?) then surely they would not put millions into any company unless money was no object to them or they had taken some form of due diligence on the company they are going to invest in and been advised that the company was worth the share price or at least had the potential to be?
My point being it doesn't matter what I think FV is worth, it is what someone (commercial credit agencies perhaps or something like that) advises the investors to what they believe it is worth.
I know the old saying about a fool and his money - but it occurs to me that there seems to me to be three obvious reasons why someone has paid £5.25m for 11.5% of FV namely, they have money to burn (super rich), they are being played (the fools) or that they really are genuine investors (speculators) who have done their homework and someone somewhere have advised them that the share prise is fair and indeed has gone up slightly over last years Jan amount to the amount paid in July and Oct.
Fwiw FV's stated Hurdle Value is £39m and the last purchase of shares puts their value at £45m.
Just my thoughts.