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181New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Mar 19 2021, 00:42

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@okocha wrote:Sluffy does mention one useful thing.....exercise.

Autogenic Training delivered professionally will also help your body and mental state fight stress, to target the specific problem. (It does not include massage, and definitely not deep breathing which should be avoided.)

If you do go down this route. Norpig, make sure your practitioner is fully qualified and not some amateur psychologist.

I actually mention ALL the "useful things" that mattered to ME when I've been through shit.

I think it is absolutely pathetic to even attempt to carry on your continual little 'digs' at me on a thread as clearly sensitive and deeply personal as this one.

I said in my post that we all "try to cope in our own ways" as there is no one answer to deal with such matters otherwise we'd all know what to do wouldn't we?

If you deal with stress by thinking happy thoughts and with your "relaxed breathing" and "muscle relaxation" then good for you.

For me I'd rather deal with what causes the stress than managing the symptoms of it.

I'm sure Norpig will find whatever is the right path for him.

182New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Mar 19 2021, 09:23

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig, I had wondered where you had got to over the last few days so this will probably explain it.

It's always a good thing to let on to your boss how you are feeling/coping with extra work loads and how realistic it is to getting these completed along side your usual work stuff.

It could then give them the option to either pass some of it on to another colleagues/extend the deadlines etc if possible.

Whilst Sluffy is correct in saying that you need to address the actual issues at hand, doing other techniques do also contribute to helping with your mental health.

I went through a spate of panic attacks and anxiety a few years ago and one of the things I felt that helped me was getting back to nature and going for walks in the forest that isn't too far from me as it helps to clear your mind and I found it quite peaceful and incorporated it in my usual daily routine.

The other thing is to cut out the alcohol completely and not using that as a crutch. This is a big no and it can mess with your mind as this can increase things like anxiety.

The pandemic we are still going through is a big contributer for most at the moment (especially if you work for the NHS) as people are not getting out the same and going on holiday to de-stress so I would definitely try and get out for a walk whenever you can.

I feel that we are not that far off with the weather improving now that we are getting towards the latter end of March so that should give you more opportunities with being able to spend time in your garden with the kids.

I can also recommend having a good bubble bath and having a good soak.

183New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Mar 19 2021, 10:10

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Have to agree about walking, KP. A good walk always finds me refreshed and glad to be alive. Even walking in the rain has a special feel of its own.
I'm even happier when I don't need a detour to A+E.

184New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Mar 19 2021, 10:23

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
No digs intended, Sluffy.  As a fully qualified and successful practitioner for over 20 years, I was simply trying to help Norpig remotely, and acknowledged that your idea of exercise was a good one, as are many of KP's suggestions, like finding time for walking and appreciating nature.

I was pointing out that deep breathing is not recommended. Massage was not mentioned by me and the interpretation of positive thought processes as "happy thoughts" is misguided.

What is important is being able to alleviate the problems caused by external causes of stress through relaxation techniques so that the immune system can function properly. Body and mind are inter-dependent.

If confident that approaching a boss or other member of staff will get a sympathetic response, then of course that would be beneficial.

185New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Mar 19 2021, 19:03

T.R.O.Y.


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Sorry to read this Pig, hope it picks up. I’ve been in a similar situation with work stress before, much of what I’d recommend has already been said but kicking the booze mid week, regular exercise and the headspace app for meditation helped me - both in terms of getting more sleep and tackling stress.

186New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 08:21

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'm back at work after a week off with stress induced illness, lets see how long i last this time and how long it takes till my bosses actually come and find me for a chat  Rolling Eyes

187New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 09:52

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:I'm back at work after a week off with stress induced illness, lets see how long i last this time and how long it takes till my bosses actually come and find me for a chat  Rolling Eyes

Thank fook for that, I've heard the NHS were having to use food bowls as bedpans in your absence.

188New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 10:14

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

Thank fook for that, I've heard the NHS were having to use food bowls as bedpans in your absence.
That might explain the sausage and mash on A9 (Physiotherapy) last week.

189New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 12:25

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

Thank fook for that, I've heard the NHS were having to use food bowls as bedpans in your absence.
Very Happy

Managed to clear a massive backlog of bedpans that had accumulated in my absence. The hose worked a treat but think i have more turds on me now than Ten Bobs carer  pale

190New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 13:27

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:I'm back at work after a week off with stress induced illness, lets see how long i last this time and how long it takes till my bosses actually come and find me for a chat  Rolling Eyes

Great to hear you feel up to going back into work.

Hope everything works out fine for you.

191New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 13:30

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I didn't have much of a choice Sluffy! I rang my GP's and the GP i spoke to wouldn't give me a sick note so as i've had 7 days off i can cover that with a self cert note but nothing more. The GP i spoke to suggested in the nicest possible terms to man up and get back to work!

192New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 13:44

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Norpig wrote:
Very Happy

Managed to clear a massive backlog of bedpans that had accumulated in my absence. The hose worked a treat but think i have more turds on me now than Ten Bobs carer  pale
One day I may need a carer. Some people need one from the day they're born to the day they shuffle off this mortal coil.

193New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 13:49

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:I didn't have much of a choice Sluffy! I rang my GP's and the GP i spoke to wouldn't give me a sick note so as i've had 7 days off i can cover that with a self cert note but nothing more. The GP i spoke to suggested in the nicest possible terms to man up and get back to work!

That sounds really bad.

I don't know about these things but could you not ask to see/speak to another doctor for a second opinion?

Not really much benefit to anyone you returning if you aren't ready to do so.

End of the day you've got to put your health before work.

It's easy for me to say but if you aren't feeling well you've got to put yourself in a position where you don't get any worse, even if that means going off sick again/leave of absence agree by your employer.

If you are not a union member then get yourself signed up ASAP, you need whatever help and support you can right now.

194New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 14:02

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Ten Bobsworth wrote:
@Norpig wrote:
Very Happy

Managed to clear a massive backlog of bedpans that had accumulated in my absence. The hose worked a treat but think i have more turds on me now than Ten Bobs carer  pale
One day I may need a carer. Some people need one from the day they're born to the day they shuffle off this mortal coil.

I think you both need to give it a rest for now.

There was no need for Norpig to post what he did and sometimes we need to need to let things go for the greater good.

Hope things turn out well for you soon Norpig but continuing to get stressed about Bob on here won't be helping you much.

I suggest you have a break from each other for a little while and resume your hostilities when you are both up to doing so.

195New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Thu Mar 25 2021, 14:04

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It was just a joke, in bad taste maybe but just a joke.

Ten Bob i apologize

196New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Mon Mar 29 2021, 16:08

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Some things never change, back in work since Thursday and not seen either of my bosses to discuss why i was off and what can be done to prevent it again  Rolling Eyes

197New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Wed Mar 31 2021, 00:50

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:Some things never change, back in work since Thursday and not seen either of my bosses to discuss why i was off and what can be done to prevent it again  Rolling Eyes

Sorry to hear that mate.

I guess you could always take the initiative and send them an email asking for a meeting with them to talk about taking some of the pressure off your shoulders?

If nothing else it gives you something in writing if you ever need it in the future.

End of the day your health must come first and there is more than a little truth in the saying 'cemeteries are full of indispensable men' - make sure you aren't one of them.

You can think happy thoughts and do your breathing exercises as much as you like but none of it will remove the presure you are under, only your managers can do that - or yourself.

You could also inform your managers that you intend to initiate a grievance procedure against them for not complying with the Health and Safety Executives, Stress at Work guidance (which would be enshired in your employers H&S polices), if nothing is urgently done by them in respect of the position they have left you in.

Link here -
https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/mental-health.htm

This is the bit that you need to be aware of and which your employer should be doing! -
https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/standards/index.htm

Your employer has a duty of care to you as an employee - and it appears they aren't delivering it - and they are legally required to do so.

That should get the ball rolling.

I suggest you keep copies of everything (and retain them at home) you never know when you might need them - hopefully never.

198New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Wed Mar 31 2021, 08:02

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I did finally get to sit down with one of my bosses and we had a chat. Nothing really resolved other than me going on formal monitoring for my sickness now! He did say it wasn't their intention to pile all the extra work on me alone but i'm not convinced and that extra work hasn't gone away just been spread out slightly more.

I am filling in a stress risk assessment but that will be the end of it i reckon. my stress brings on my fatty liver symptoms so i need to get that under control and then things should start to ease off a bit i hope.

199New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 09:14

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My tale of woe continues! Another bout of diarrhoea this week. I rang the Doctor and spoke to yet another different Doctor. He now seems to think the fatty liver is not to blame for the constant runs so i've got to have more tests to see if its something like IBD, Colitis or Crohn's Disease.

200New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 10:08

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:My tale of woe continues! Another bout of diarrhoea this week. I rang the Doctor and spoke to yet another different Doctor. He now seems to think the fatty liver is not to blame for the constant runs so i've got to have more tests to see if its something like IBD, Colitis or Crohn's Disease.
Hope it turns out to be nothing too serious mate. If you remember I had the runs the other week which stopped me from returning to footie - but I’m ok now and looking forward to my first game in months tonight.
Double Pilates today to reduce the chances of injury despite hoping to take it easy first time back - which isn’t really possible tbh.

201New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 10:25

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Hoping all will be well for you soon, Norpig!

202New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 11:54

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Just read all this Mr Pig. Sorry to hear you're not firing on all cylinders. From what I've seen of you on here, its only a matter of time before you'll be fine and behaving like a 50 year old  Very Happy
Good luck mate, and I hope you feel much better soon.

203New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 12:46

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:My tale of woe continues! Another bout of diarrhoea this week. I rang the Doctor and spoke to yet another different Doctor. He now seems to think the fatty liver is not to blame for the constant runs so i've got to have more tests to see if its something like IBD, Colitis or Crohn's Disease.

Could it be something as simple as your recent change in diet?

If you've started eating a load of fruit and tons of fiber maybe your digestion simply can't cope and that's why you have the squirts?

Just a thought.

204New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 13:26

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@gloswhite wrote:Just read all this Mr Pig. Sorry to hear you're not firing on all cylinders. From what I've seen of you on here, its only a matter of time before you'll be fine and behaving like a 50 year old  Very Happy
Good luck mate, and I hope you feel much better soon.
Trouble is Glos, he IS firing on all cylinders, but at the wrong end. 
Hope you get this sorted mate, because it's not pleasant. I worked with a guy with IBS, and it always broke out during times of stress. We worked outside, so getting to a toilet was sometimes difficult, but he managed to bring it under control with the help of his doctor.
Easy to say avoid stress, but it must be difficult in your job. But, finding the cause is the first battle to win.

205New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 13:34

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thanks for all the kind words, you've cheered me up a bit. 

Had to shit in a bowl this morning so i could do 2 samples to send off for testing  Very Happy

206New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 13:37

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Stress is a big contributer for IBS. I get this and it can be terrible at times. Certain foods also cause this as well.

I remember my dad having colitis when I was a kid and him having to use the colifoam at the time. My dad then around 20 years ago got diagnosed with bowel cancer (my grandmum had this too) and survived and then after constant checks ever since, the doc now believes it is chrons disease. Whether he had this in the first place I do not know.

IBS, Chrons and colitis seem to go hand in hand in a way with the symptoms.

Hope you get it all sorted Norpig and it isn't anything more serious.

207New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 13:50

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig, I take it that your diet has gone out of the window like mine? Very Happy

208New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 13:54

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
One thing that jumped in my mind is if you have been checked for Celiac disease?

209New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 14:42

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes they did check for coeliac on the first round of tests i think. I have been trying to eat healthier and it's not made much difference to be honest, still getting the trots so i'm off for a kebab when i feel better  Very Happy

210New Year new Norpig - Page 7 Empty Re: New Year new Norpig Fri Apr 09 2021, 15:57

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I had IBS for nearly 2 years, and it was horrendously painful. Bit by bit I found that , strangely, an attack would most often begin when I sat in my car, especially first thing in the morning, which usually meant driving like a lunatic to any of the earmarked toilets that I knew of in the area.
As time went on I found I could ever so slightly manage it by having absolutely nothing to eat or drink before 1200. Slowly but surely, it went away. (if you can manage this, it'll also put you back on your diet.)
You'll have a job identifying any but the obvious triggers. Good luck, and don't forget to keep a bog roll in the car.  Very Happy

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