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1European Super League Empty European Super League Sun Apr 18 2021, 22:57

Sluffy

Sluffy
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It was always going to happen sooner or later but it seems the first big step is about to be made -

European Super League: Uefa and Premier League condemn 12 major clubs signing up to breakaway plans

Uefa, the Premier League and UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson have condemned 12 major European clubs, including the 'big six' from England, signing up to a breakaway European Super League.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham are part of the group.

La Liga's Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and Real Madrid and Serie A's AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus are involved.

Uefa said it will use "all measures" possible to stop the "cynical project".

Senior figures at European football's governing body are furious about the proposals.

More here -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56794673

Whose going to be bothered about the Premier League when the 'big' clubs will be the likes of West Ham, Leicester, Everton and Wolves???

Not many I would expect!

And neither will Sky and it's billions for game coverage.

I suspect massive changes ahead for football in general and the PL clubs who get left behind in particular!





2European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 06:41

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Posted this on my own thread yesterday, so I might as well stick it here.

3European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 08:07

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The format sounds just like the expanded Champions League but obviously the big teams will look to sort out their own TV package so this is all about greed.

It will also mean that the big 6 will have 2 teams i reckon. One to be in the ESL and a sort of reserve team to play in the Premiership which will demean the whole set up. I agree 100% with Neville and the MOTD2 pundits last night, it is just pure greed from foreign owners who don't care about the traditions of our football and care even less about fans.

4European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 09:10

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:it is just pure greed from foreign owners who don't care about the traditions of our football and care even less about fans.

Completely agree with this.

5European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 09:26

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I've been banging on about this coming for years, but now that it has, I still find it unbelievable.

This is a Gerald Ratner moment.

6European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 12:10

Bollotom2014

Bollotom2014
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
One problem I can see for fans is the away games. Who can afford to travel a few times a year to distant shores to watch their teams? And how much will it cost to buy a player?
And it's half a dozen teams from this country. Surely they can't play Chorley in the cup on  Saturday then fly out for a game on Wednesday then fly back to play Trashmere in another cup match on Tuesday.
It's going to be a very wealthy league. Season tickets thousands of squids and business rates increases of tens of thousands of pounds, if footie clubs pay business rates.
The rest of all the leagues can go hump themselves. Might as well get that popcorn machine I've been promising myself.

7European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 14:57

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Players involved in the European Super League could be banned from ALL UEFA competitions and the World Cup... and could even miss Euro 2020, says UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9487253/UEFA-president-Aleksander-Ceferin-accuses-Andrea-Agelli-lying-European-Super-League.html

8European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:16

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The fans of all 12 clubs need to make their voices heard and tell their clubs that they don't want this. If the clubs then go against their own fanbase then football is well and truly finished.

9European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:36

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

10European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:36

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

11European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:41

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Front of BWFC:

European Super League Megsonout

12European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:45

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just read on the BBC website that United's share price has gone up 8.5% on the NY stock exchange. This is what football has become, just a way for already rich people to get even richer  Rolling Eyes

13European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:46

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:Front of BWFC:

European Super League Megsonout
Get that bed sheet out again Nat but wash it this time eh?  Very Happy

14European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 15:58

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

15European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 22:29

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Norpig wrote:Just read on the BBC website that United's share price has gone up 8.5% on the NY stock exchange. This is what football has become, just a way for already rich people to get even richer  Rolling Eyes

It's been like that for years mate, certainly since the Premier League was founded.

Does nobody wonder why Americans own Man Utd. Liverpool and Arsenal, a Russian owns Chelsea, and the UAE/China government own City?

If that isn't enough Thais own Leicester, an Iranian with Russian connections, living in Monaco owns Everton, a Chinese bloke owns Southampton, a Chinese conglomerate owns Wolves, a Pakistani-American owns Fulham, an Italian owns Leeds (majority shareholder anyway), Americans have just bought Burnley, another chinaman owns West Brom, a Saudi owns Sheffield United, an Egyptian and another American are the owners of Aston Villa.

If I've counted correctly that is 15 out of the current 20 PL clubs in foreign ownership and even Ashley at Newcastle is desparate to sell to the Saudis.

So only Spurs (Joe Lewis), West Ham (the porn barrons), Brighton (Tony Bloom - gambler) and Crystal Palace (Steve Parish) along with Newcastle are still British owned and only three of them (I'm not sure about Lewis?) are even fans of the club they own!

The others are all here for the money, make no mistake about that.

Broadcast Rights are worth so much that PL clubs don't even need to rely on gate receipts and so attendance by fans simply aren't important to them - hence why if the 'big' clubs do want to breakaway - they will.

As for the players - Pogba wants £500k per week to stay at United NOW - do you think he and others would give that up just to play in the FA Cup or represent their country???

Of course they wouldn't - it's all about the money!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14685680/man-utd-paul-pogba-contract-psg-real-madrid/

And let's be honest which one of us would turn our back on BWFC if we were one of the big six - we'd be loving it that we'd be one of the biggest names in the world playing Real Madrid and Juve, etc every week rather than the likes of Burnley, Fulham and Brighton, etc.

Money talks - it always has.

16European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Mon Apr 19 2021, 23:19

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin

17European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 00:05

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
There is a part of me that wants to see them do it. Burn it all down and start over. A chance to reset is better than a compromise where all the other clubs will still get shafted anyway. Adopt a model like in Germany with smaller TV deals and sensible wages to bring genuine competition back to the game.

18European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 07:39

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Premiership owners, Sluffy? Don't you think they are all really nice people, with nice manners and not a rogue amongst 'em? 

19European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 08:41

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

20European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 08:47

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Norpig wrote:
Man Utd are ALWAYS the ringleaders

21European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 08:50

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Ten Bobsworth wrote:
Man Utd are ALWAYS the ringleaders
Bob it's finally happened, something we agree on  cheers

22European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 08:51

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:


And let's be honest which one of us would turn our back on BWFC if we were one of the big six - 



I would.

23European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 08:53

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Norpig wrote:
Bob it's finally happened, something we agree on  cheers
What joy it is when at least one penny drops  Very Happy

24European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 09:04

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
I would.
 I know a lot of United and City fans so it will be interesting to see what they do if this does go ahead. One of my friends is a massive City fan and is dead against it but who knows what will happen? It would be hard to stop following a team just like that.

Altrincham are offering a discount to swap their support from the likes of United and City and will give them a 10% discount on a season ticket for next year  Very Happy



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25European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 09:04

T.R.O.Y.


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@boltonbonce wrote:
I would.

Me too, I’d be ashamed to support any of these clubs at the moment - which is what most fans seem to be. Sport is about competition, the whole purpose of this league is to get rid of that.

26European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 09:06

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@boltonbonce wrote:
I would.
It was during the Allardyce years that a lot of Bolton supporters became glory-hunters and avid consumers of tripe and hogwash. The penny still hasn't dropped with most that it all depended on spending more than you could afford.

27European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 09:17

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
As Abraham Lincoln said, "Too many pigs for the teats".

28European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 10:38

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think we've all been passively complicit in this. When Anderson was trying to sell us, we were all hoping for a rich sugar daddy to appear, whether he be American, or a wealthy Sheikh.
It's easy to be pious when you've not been invited to the orgy.

29European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 10:44

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Does anyone really think the 6 teams will be booted out of the Premier league? If they are then it devalues the whole pyramid and the desire to get to the Premiership may not be as strong. Imagine the next TV deal if that happens, it will be peanuts compared to the present one.

If the teams stay then they will obviously prioritise the ESL and have what will be in effect a B team in the Premiership which is just as bad as kicking them out. Also imagine if an ESL's B team found themselves relegated from the Premiership, what happens then?

So many questions but i have a feeling even with all the uproar at the moment that this will happen and ruin our beautiful game for good.

30European Super League Empty Re: European Super League Tue Apr 20 2021, 11:32

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
GN pretty much agrees with you Mr Pig.

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