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OFFICAL Dougie Freedman new Bolton manager!

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Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

STILL not official.

are we sure he hasn't gone to Blackburn?

hope i haven't jumped the gun with my love heart.

Barryjw

Barryjw
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

I believe Mark Curtis is Freedman's agent (as well as Coyle & Megson's) which explains a lot.

Another big pay day for Curtis from us! Sad

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Really? Bit strange.

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Freedman doesn't have an agent, he operates alone.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I am still seething about this. I have decided to miss the Wolves game in protest.

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

So another sideways move!

I see this is a real bad move in my opinion seeing that he hasn't much managerial experience.

Let's hope fat phil and co didn't jump for him due to his recent good form.

Good old Bolton, always doing it on the cheap...

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
Moderator
Moderator

karlypants wrote:So another sideways move!

I see this is a real bad move in my opinion seeing that he hasn't much managerial experience.

Let's hope fat phil and co didn't jump for him due to his recent good form.

Good old Bolton, always doing it on the cheap...

Who did you want?....Seriously who?

Give the guy a fucking chance, he hasn't walked through the door and we're making him out like he's gary megson.

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

How about you give him a chance, Natasha?

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

aaron_bwfc wrote:

Give the guy a fucking chance, he hasn't walked through the door and we're making him out like he's gary megson.

He doesn't have the credentials of Gary Megson.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Gonnawin4coyle wrote:How about you give him a chance, Natasha?

Don't be stupid.

Keegan

Keegan
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While I'm not hopping around with excitement, I'm not exactly seething either. I'm definitely wait-and-see on this one. All the best, Douglas - here's hoping you succeed where your fellow Glaswegian failed, and bring us success.

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

According to Iles Palace have massively jumped the gun and Freedman hadn't even agreed to take over when they announced he had left! Basically they pushed him out!

He's not agreed a thing apparently! laughable.

jayjay23

jayjay23
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Jimmy Phillips and Sammy Lee to take over at Palace I hear! Superb.

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

If Doug has any sense he will hang on to JP and SL. You don't want backroom staff who are all 'Yes ' men, happy to feed you full of shit as long as they are drawing wages.

It's going to take a few weeks for Dougie to make his own mind up as to our best options and I would think that initially it would make sense for him to rely heavily on the input from JP and SL.

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

How strange.

At least the last Scottish manager that you managed to steal had actually achieved something.

I think Gartside has an obsession with upsetting as many people as he can.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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He achieved something with Bolton too - he managed to get us relegated!

Thanks Owen.

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Sluffy wrote:He achieved something with Bolton too - he managed to get us relegated!

Thanks Owen.

Did you not want Susan's lad from the start then Sluffy?

There were plenty of Bolton fans at t'Turf in December 2009 who did want him.

Now you've got someone, who lets face it not many Bolton fans had as their first choice.

If he doesn't win at least two out of his four first games then the cycle will continue.

chipbutty

chipbutty
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

Quote in the Guardian from Steve Paris the Palace chairman :-

I had a very good relationship with Dougie and I wish him every success in the future. Football is a precarious situation for managers – eight games ago we had a boycott of fans wanting him out. Dougie feels his career can be served elsewhere, I don't feel betrayed and now we have to find a new manager.



Does Gartside know about the fans boycott?

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

I'd take that with a pinch of salt.

Freedman was well thought of by Palace fans up until this last couple of days.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Copper Dragon wrote:
Did you not want Susan's lad from the start then Sluffy?

There were plenty of Bolton fans at t'Turf in December 2009 who did want him.

Now you've got someone, who lets face it not many Bolton fans had as their first choice.

If he doesn't win at least two out of his four first games then the cycle will continue.


I guess was in a very small minority in not actually thinking Megson was a bad manager.

Of course he had to go when he did because the vast majority of the fans were on his back and it had got poisonous for the club.

I felt he'd been treated badly generally speaking.

These days I'm very insular when it comes to football so I didn’t know much about Coyle than what I'd seen in the press so was happy enough for him to come - old boy and all that - plus there was the promise of entertaining football as well.

The thing was for me that as the early weeks went by the club was getting almost the identical results that Megson was achieving - yet Megson was derided as not knowing what the fuck he was doing, yet Coyle was being feted as some sort of a God!

When I started to ask on the forums what actually (result and performance wise) was the difference between the two, I was by enlarge deemed some sort of an idiot.

The more I saw of the games under Coyle the more I doubted that he actually had any tactical savvy - just simple things like not using subs to close a game down when it had been won but instead take risks and go for another goal - that wouldn't effect the end result - and consequently letting in late equalisers and indeed winners - just schoolboy type managing really - not professional at all.

It soon seemed obvious to me that Coyle was well out of his depth strategically wise and that if I could see that opposition scouts and managers could too!

There really was two major questions to me - firstly whoever recommended that we appoint him as manager had not studied his tactical skills and applications of them in any depth and secondly when the problem became apparent with him in situ, why something was done about it PDQ!

Ok mistakes happen, we may not have spotted such an obvious flaw when things were going right for Coyle at Burnley - but even at that stage his away record in the Premier was horrendous - surely that should have rung a warning to someone about how he set up for away games at the top level? - but why the hell did the club let Coyle blunder on towards relegation without something being done to stop it and improve things? I'm talking about from the start of 2010 - nearly two years back!

I don't know how ego's and machismoness plays out in football at the top level but clearly someone with a footballing brain was needed to be brought in to help Coyle - if he was to be retained as the figurehead - or conversely plans had to be made to replace him before the damage was done and he got us relegated and lost millions in Sky revenue.

None of it made any sense to me - and I said so -the time - but Coyle could do no wrong apparently - even now he still as a great deal of supporters sympathy and no doubt Gartside’s as well.

I've no idea how good / bad a manager Freedman is - but I'd be staggered if he was anywhere like as bad as Coyle is.

At the end of the day football is only a game - or should be anyway - I felt sorry for Megson but he had to go, I was happy for Coyle to come but it turned out to be a big mistake, I can't understand why the 'mistake' wasn't addressed a whole lot sooner but at the end of the day I don't own the club and call the shots, so I let them get on with it and simply scratch my head on little internet forums like this trying to make sense of what's going on around me - and often failing!

That's football in the twenty-first century I guess!

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