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Where do you stand on ‘Woke’?

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41Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Mon Oct 17 2022, 01:14

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Hip Priest wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Just for the record, there is also a MASSIVE difference between expressing your opinion and posting fake news, hatred and lies - of which you do often on here and try to pretend that they are your opinions.

They are not - they are what they are - fake news, hatred and lies.


I seem to recall that when I suggested a couple of days ago that it was always you that kicked off the aggro you denied it, claiming to be some sort of crusader for honesty, peace and justice on the site. The above discussion on wokery between Mad Dog, Biggie and Lusty was going along just fine before you chip in with your usual myopic nastiness and complete lack of self awareness.

How is stating that false news is false news, hatred is hatred and lies are lies, is in any way myopic nastiness???

Read what I've written - which for the record is not abusive in any way, shape or form - and read back what you've just written.

You are the one being abusive and unnecessarily personal here - not me.

Look, I really don't give a toss if you or anyone likes me or not - I'm just a random poster on a tiny footy forum after all - but I laugh my arse off at people like you who get so het up and angry over something posted on social media by someone you don't know, to someone else, who you don't know either!

You've chosen to be in team Wanderlust - good for you.

He still will continue to post fake news, post his hatred and tell lies - and if that's the type of poster you have hitched your waggon to, then that says far more about you than whatever I could ever say.

I look forward to you shouting at me again in capital letters, personally abusing me as you have just done - and to cap it all off - YOU telling ME that I've no self-awareness!!!

Perhaps you should really have tried practicing what you preached first though mate.

Otherwise you will continue to look like the completely one-sided, sanctimonious hypocrite that you do now.

Won't you?

42Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Mon Oct 17 2022, 18:16

Mad Dog


Nicky Hunt
Nicky Hunt

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11323995/Biomedical-scientist-posted-women-cervix-Twitter-struck-tribunal.html

Wanderlust, as said yesterday - proof that people cannot speak out against woke ideology otherwise their career’s are over. Do you see what I mean now?

43Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Mon Oct 17 2022, 22:50

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Mad Dog wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11323995/Biomedical-scientist-posted-women-cervix-Twitter-struck-tribunal.html

Wanderlust, as said yesterday - proof that people cannot speak out against woke ideology otherwise their career’s are over. Do you see what I mean now?
He was kicked out for a string of racist comments and inciting racial tension which is as illegal as it is obnoxious so the twist should be banged up let alone getting struck off.

44Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Tue Oct 18 2022, 00:53

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Sluffy wrote:

How is stating that false news is false news, hatred is hatred and lies are lies, is in any way myopic nastiness???

Read what I've written - which for the record is not abusive in any way, shape or form - and read back what you've just written.

You are the one being abusive and unnecessarily personal here - not me.

Look, I really don't give a toss if you or anyone likes me or not - I'm just a random poster on a tiny footy forum after all - but I laugh my arse off at people like you who get so het up and angry over something posted on social media by someone you don't know, to someone else, who you don't know either!

You've chosen to be in team Wanderlust - good for you.

He still will continue to post fake news, post his hatred and tell lies - and if that's the type of poster you have hitched your waggon to, then that says far more about you than whatever I could ever say.

I look forward to you shouting at me again in capital letters, personally abusing me as you have just done - and to cap it all off - YOU telling ME that I've no self-awareness!!!

Perhaps you should really have tried practicing what you preached first though mate.

Otherwise you will continue to look like the completely one-sided, sanctimonious hypocrite that you do now.

Won't you?

I'll spare you the capital letters and save them for a worthier cause.

Laugh your arse off at me all you like. I haven't "chosen anybody's team" but like many others before me, I'm trying to get you to recognise the negative effect your attitude is having on our (your own) forum.

I wouldn't be the first person to comment on how much improved the atmosphere was on here when you took your last enforced break from posting.

How many "one-sided, sanctimonious hypocrites" will it take to convince you that you overstep the mark on far too many occasions?

I can't think of many regular posters on this site who haven't, at one time or another, found it necessary to warn you as to your conduct on here and I shudder to think how many good or prospective new posters no longer visit this site because of your attitude.

You have even been warned to tone it down by fellow site moderators, but you just ignore it and continue on your own sweet way, free to say what you like to anybody. Then when they give you as much back you ban them, whining that they are "Trolling you."

However many people try to tell you this you somehow just can't see it. Why do you think it is that so many people have remarked on your complete lack of self awareness.

45Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Tue Oct 18 2022, 02:20

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin

Hip Priest wrote:
I'll spare you the capital letters and save them for a worthier cause.

Laugh your arse off at me all you like. I haven't "chosen anybody's team" but like many others before me, I'm trying to get you to recognise the negative effect your attitude is having on our (your own) site.

I wouldn't be the first person to comment on how much improved the atmosphere was on here when you took your last enforced break from posting.

How many "one-sided, sanctimonious hypocrites" will it take to convince you that you overstep the mark on far too many occasions?

I can't think of many regular posters on this site who haven't, at one time or another, found it necessary to warn you as to your conduct on here and I shudder to think how many good or prospective new posters no longer visit this site because of your attitude.

You have even been warned to tone it down by fellow site moderators, but you just ignore it and continue on your own sweet way, free to say what you like to anybody. Then when they give you as much back you ban them, whining that they are "Trolling you."

However many people try to tell you this you somehow just can't see it. Why do you think it is that so many people have remarked on your complete lack of self awareness.

Well if you don't like what I post then go and find a site better suited to you.

Go on then.

I see you've chosen to avoid acknowledging that you were totally wrong to have a pop at me in what I had said above (a lie is still a lie, etc), that YOU were the one who was abusive to ME, and that you only had a pop at me in the first place because of your completely one-sided view that everything I say must somehow be "myopic nastiness", whatever that's supposed to be.

You feel completely entitled to tell ME how I lack self-awareness, even though you quite clearly aren't aware of your own failings in this matter - what's that saying about taking the speck of dust out someone else's eye when you've got a bloody big plank stuck in your own eye already!

Mathew 7:5 if you are interested.

This verse continues the metaphor of a person with a plank in their own eye who criticizes someone for a speck in that person's eye. In this verse, Jesus argues that one must first remove the plank before going on to remove the speck. This verse warns us against hypocrisy, seeing the flaw (sin) in another while ignoring the obvious sin in our own lives

I overstepped no mark - I made a simple statement of fact - not one single other person made any mention of my post and it's been up longer than a day now - just YOU.

And why was that...

You chose to attack me, simply because you clearly have issues with me that go back years on here - and I do laugh at how stupid you (and others are) to fall out/get upset/aim to get your own back, all because I've disagreed with you or pointed out something you got wrong on here - this totally irrelevant, ethereal world of the internet!

If you can't tell the difference between what is real and what isn't by now you really must live a sadder life that the one you believe me to have!

Christ when you shouted at me in capitals, I burst out laughing - how the fuck could anyone get so angry about what some random person on the internet posted???

I wasn't even being abusive to anyone - that isn't my style - and yes I have said above that you are stupid because no sensible person would take seriously anything said on a social media site - it isn't the real world and probably 90% of what you read is either bullshit or bollocks anyway!

You and others on here have taken it upon yourselves to judge me from what I post on here, mainly because I disprove and disagree with large parts of your ill-informed, usually ignorant of the relevant facts and highly prejudicial points of view you hold so dear.

Have you never thought that if these views of yours were correct then they would easily stand up to any deconstruction of them that I may make?

Anderson wasn't a crook, no corruption took place in the awarding of the PPE contracts, Sue Gray did write an independent report, the abolishment of the 45% tax reduction was a meaningless sideshow to the main issue of the remaining £42 billion tax giveaways. etc, etc, etc.

All of which stupid people thought the opposite of because they WANTED that to be the case, believed what bullshit from utter morons on social media were posting and had no regards for the actual truths of the matters when informed by people like myself who knew the facts because they are career specialists in these fields.

Yes I've crossed swords with many on here even fellow mods but I think you'll find I've been proven right far more times than I've been wrong - and do you know why that is - it's because I don't believe everything I read on the internet to be true like you, Wessy, Wanderlust and one or two more, who hold deep rooted biased, prejudicial and ill-informed beliefs that blind you to the real truths of the matter.

This place is a forum remember and I'm more than happy to debate with anyone and back up what I say with facts.  If you don't like that, then what's the point of you being on a forum in the first place, just go on Twitter and spout your one-sided view of the world to your little hearts content.

46Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Wed Oct 19 2022, 01:41

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

OMG.  WOW.

Well now, I must admit that you know you must be in the wrong when you get Matthew Ch7 Vs5 quoted at you on a football forum. You can't really argue with that can you? I mean that's the Word of God/(Sluffy) isn't it?

I usually struggle to read to the end of your longer posts like this one but that post is just so bizarre and "out there" that I had to read it right through to the end, twice.

I'm at a loss for words really so I'll leave you with the calming words of the 23rd Psalm.

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, just as long as that righteous nutter Sluffy doesn't notice me walking in the opposite direction." Smile

47Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Wed Oct 19 2022, 08:26

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Hip Priest wrote:OMG.  WOW.

Well now, I must admit that you know you must be in the wrong when you get Matthew Ch7 Vs5 quoted at you on a football forum. You can't really argue with that can you? I mean that's the Word of God/(Sluffy) isn't it?

I usually struggle to read to the end of your longer posts like this one but that post is just so bizarre and "out there" that I had to read it right through to the end, twice.

I'm at a loss for words really so I'll leave you with the calming words of the 23rd Psalm.

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, just as long as that righteous nutter Sluffy doesn't notice me walking in the opposite direction." Smile

If you've got me down as a God botherer you are completely wrong yet again - I believe in facts not fiction.

The source of the quote happened to be the bible yes, but it was the quote that was the important thing (the message) - not the bible (the messenger) and that yet again shows that you are one of those who rather shoot at the messenger than read and understand the message itself - which is actually the important part, and the whole reason why the poor messenger has put himself at risk of getting shot to bring it to you in the first place!

I notice that yet again that you fail to address this...

Sluffy wrote:I see you've chosen to avoid acknowledging that you were totally wrong to have a pop at me in what I had said above (a lie is still a lie, etc), that YOU were the one who was abusive to ME, and that you only had a pop at me in the first place because of your completely one-sided view that everything I say must somehow be "myopic nastiness", whatever that's supposed to be.  

Or why...

Sluffy wrote: You feel completely entitled to tell ME how I lack self-awareness, even though you quite clearly aren't aware of your own failings in this matter - what's that saying about taking the speck of dust out someone else's eye when you've got a bloody big plank stuck in your own eye already!

I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply that I know will never come.

I'll give you another quote though to be going on with, this time from the film Forest Gump that probably gives reasons to why you act towards me as you always do...

Proverb
Stupid is as stupid does

One's lack of intelligence may be judged by one's actions.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stupid_is_as_stupid_does#:~:text=Proverb,be%20judged%20by%20one%27s%20actions.

Have a nice day.

48Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Thu Oct 20 2022, 00:55

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I gave you my OPINIONS on your behaviour and stand 100% behind those OPINIONS. There are no facts to produce or anything to prove to anybody. I (and many others) simply believe that sometimes you behave like a total bell end on here.

You've come back and given your OPINIONS of me and I'm completely ok with whatever you think. They are your OPINIONS about me and that's fine. I won't be going to the trouble of writing a 2 page essay about it.

Take your own advice for once, take that massive plank from your eye and get yourself a life.

49Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Thu Oct 20 2022, 01:32

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Hip Priest wrote:I gave you my OPINIONS on your behaviour and stand 100% behind those OPINIONS. There are no facts to produce or anything to prove to anybody. I (and many others) simply believe that sometimes you behave like a total bell end on here.

You've come back and given your OPINIONS of me and I'm completely ok with whatever you think. They are your OPINIONS about me and that's fine. I won't be going to the trouble of writing a 2 page essay about it.

Take your own advice for once, take that massive plank from your eye and get yourself a life.

Hahaha!!!!

Who's getting all huffy and het up again?

I didn't give you any opinions I gave you facts.

It was a fact that I wasn't abusive in the post I made (lies are lies).

It was a fact that you posted personal and completely unwarranted abuse towards me in your comment of that post.

It was a fact that I challenged you on that.

It was a fact that you deliberately ignored this and hadn't the balls to admit you were wrong in what you said, or man enough to apologise for it.

It was a fact that I challenged you a second time about your abuse of me.

It was a fact that for the second time you showed that you neither had the balls or was man enough to hold your hand up and say you were out of order for what you had done.

It was a fact that I challenged you for the third and final time about your abuse of me.

And it was a fact that you hid from it yet again for the third time like a pathetic, little, sniveling coward!

It is a fact that we all know you were wrong in what you did and how you have behaved since.

And finally, it is a fact that how you have behaved over the last few days says more about you than any opinion of mine of you could ever have done!!!

50Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Fri Oct 21 2022, 00:17

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I repeat. Get yourself a life.

51Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Fri Oct 21 2022, 01:19

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin

Hip Priest wrote:I repeat. Get yourself a life.

I've got one, thank you.

One where I laugh at idiots who feel the need to get angry and abuse folk they don't know from Adam on the internet and can't man up when they know they've fucked up and made a mistake, made completely, unwarranted, personal abuse.

Any decent forum relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if everyone can't see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right isn't what grownups do (to paraphrase Suella Braverman).

Stupid is as stupid does - as you have amply demonstrated this week - or hadn't you ever realised that before?

With people like you to laugh at, my life is just fine mate.

52Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Fri Oct 21 2022, 15:35

Whitesince63


El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Any chance of getting back to the thread subject guys?

I see Labour are really pushing for votes this morning as Anneliese Dodds states that Labours supporting the following. 

A ban on all conversion therapy
Appoint an Envoy to oversee LGBT+ rights globally
Modernise the gender recognition list and protect the equality act.

Labour leading on LGBT+ rights, the Tory’s paralysed by chaos.

That’s really going to be popular with red wall seats. Unbelievable.

Showing a red card to racism (which I agree with) but strangely no mention from anyone in Labour, including Captain Hindsight, about the resignation this morning of one of their MPs for sexual misconduct. Maybe they need to reconsider their priorities?

53Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Thu Oct 27 2022, 17:12

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Whitesince63 wrote:Any chance of getting back to the thread subject guys?

I see Labour are really pushing for votes this morning as Anneliese Dodds states that Labours supporting the following. 

A ban on all conversion therapy
Appoint an Envoy to oversee LGBT+ rights globally
Modernise the gender recognition list and protect the equality act.

Labour leading on LGBT+ rights, the Tory’s paralysed by chaos.

That’s really going to be popular with red wall seats. Unbelievable.

Showing a red card to racism (which I agree with) but strangely no mention from anyone in Labour, including Captain Hindsight, about the resignation this morning of one of their MPs for sexual misconduct. Maybe they need to reconsider their priorities?
The Labour party removed the whip before he resigned and made a statement against the MP?

Unlike the government who try defend offenders who watch porn in the house etc.  New to this thread made me laugh Whites you made a comment about 0.1% of trans people having a voice.  Thats more than those who just elected our last 2 Prime ministers.

Just read through this thread and OMG if anyone new comes along they will wonder what the hell is going on. Another thread hi jacked.

54Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Sat Oct 29 2022, 10:10

Ten Bobsworth


Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

It won't please the guardianistas or the wokerati but Greater Manchester Police is out of 'special measures'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11367445/Anti-woke-police-chief-guides-failing-force-special-measures-basics-approach.html

55Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Sat Oct 29 2022, 11:34

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Ten Bobsworth wrote:It won't please the guardianistas or the wokerati but Greater Manchester Police is out of 'special measures'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11367445/Anti-woke-police-chief-guides-failing-force-special-measures-basics-approach.html
We'll soon be back to the good of days of the 'clip round the ear never did me any harm' copper.
Jack Warner was a bit of a character. His relationship with his two sisters, Elsie and Doris Waters (of Gert and Daisy fame) was a strained one, as Elsie refused to have his name mentioned in her presence. No idea what that was all about.

56Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? - Page 3 Empty Re: Where do you stand on ‘Woke’? Sat Oct 29 2022, 12:51

Ten Bobsworth


Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

boltonbonce wrote:
We'll soon be back to the good of days of the 'clip round the ear never did me any harm' copper.
Jack Warner was a bit of a character. His relationship with his two sisters, Elsie and Doris Waters (of Gert and Daisy fame) was a strained one, as Elsie refused to have his name mentioned in her presence. No idea what that was all about.
I don’t think so, Boncey, but a policeman that gets on with policing is going to have the ‘kinder politics’ wokerati mob foaming at the mouth, getting out their pitchforks and burning effigies of J K Rowling.

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