Which Bolton Players, Former or Current deserve Legend Status

Reebok Trotter wrote:That's what I meant. If we are judging players for their longevity at Bolton then there are not all that many that fit the criteria.

He played well and I liked him but someone who plays 20 games for us can't be classed as a legend imo.

It's just because he was a big name that people say he's a Bolton legend.

Vincent Candela was another top quality player who only played a few games for us but he oozed class.

What about Eidur Gudjohnssen? He had his best spell when he played for us. He went on to play for Chelsea and Barca but the promise he showed at Bolton never came to fruition.

Reebok Trotter wrote:.

What about Eidur Gudjohnssen?

Not a legend.

Ran off for more money and never really 'loved' us in the way a 'legend' should.

amazing player, but far from a legend.

The thing about this topic is that it is very subjective. We all have our own favourites for one reason or another. Kevin Nolan was one of my favourite players simply because he always had a good work ethnic. Not the most talented player but he made up for it with his enthusiasm and never say die attitude.

People like Barry Cowdrill, David Burke, Mike Whitlow and Simon Charlton are bigger Bolton legends than Vincent Candela.

And I'm not joking btw.

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

Triumph wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:Anyone who would not class Kevin Davies as one of the clubs all time greats is not a true bolton fan IMO.

Strong statement I know, but he personified everything I love about Bolton Wanderers during our modern 'glory' years.

Slowing down now and not as much use as he used to be, but sweats blood for the cause. Im pretty sure it was him to led the players after megson had totally lost control of the dressing room...

Now thats a different message, all time great maybe but not a Legend sorry.

How?

and why not?

A legend is somebody who has a long standing service and an admiration for the club and its fans.

Kevin Davies has put his head on the line in the past for us.

How can you say Super John Is a legend but not Kevin Davies?

Nat will always be a cut above anyone else at the club - without a doubt, nobody comes close, hence why he has a statue, but to say Super Kev is not a legend is wrong.

Kev has been good maybe great but never good enoth to call a legend, anyway we always sell our GREAT players and I am sure had the offers come in he would have gone.

Triumph wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

Triumph wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:Anyone who would not class Kevin Davies as one of the clubs all time greats is not a true bolton fan IMO.

Strong statement I know, but he personified everything I love about Bolton Wanderers during our modern 'glory' years.

Slowing down now and not as much use as he used to be, but sweats blood for the cause. Im pretty sure it was him to led the players after megson had totally lost control of the dressing room...

Now thats a different message, all time great maybe but not a Legend sorry.

How?

and why not?

A legend is somebody who has a long standing service and an admiration for the club and its fans.

Kevin Davies has put his head on the line in the past for us.

How can you say Super John Is a legend but not Kevin Davies?

Nat will always be a cut above anyone else at the club - without a doubt, nobody comes close, hence why he has a statue, but to say Super Kev is not a legend is wrong.

Kev has been good maybe great but never good enoth to call a legend, anyway we always sell our GREAT players and I am sure had the offers come in he would have gone.

You Dont get it do you...

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

Triumph wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

Triumph wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:Anyone who would not class Kevin Davies as one of the clubs all time greats is not a true bolton fan IMO.

Strong statement I know, but he personified everything I love about Bolton Wanderers during our modern 'glory' years.

Slowing down now and not as much use as he used to be, but sweats blood for the cause. Im pretty sure it was him to led the players after megson had totally lost control of the dressing room...

Now thats a different message, all time great maybe but not a Legend sorry.

How?

and why not?

A legend is somebody who has a long standing service and an admiration for the club and its fans.

Kevin Davies has put his head on the line in the past for us.

How can you say Super John Is a legend but not Kevin Davies?

Nat will always be a cut above anyone else at the club - without a doubt, nobody comes close, hence why he has a statue, but to say Super Kev is not a legend is wrong.

Kev has been good maybe great but never good enoth to call a legend, anyway we always sell our GREAT players and I am sure had the offers come in he would have gone.

You Dont get it do you...

Of course I do but at the end of the day it's just an opinion, Legend is not an official status.

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

In the same kind of light, we could say Big Sam is a legend, however the way he treated us and the utter contempt he has shown since leaving us makes him just above 'Sewer Rat' in my opinion...

"I have to say there wasn't much feeling when Blackburn were relegated because of the way they treated me," he told the People.

"Bolton is a different story because I left them and I only did that because of their lack of ambition. Everyone knows how much the club means to me and always will, so I was saddened by their relegation."

So much contempt

Lofty_Love wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

In the same kind of light, we could say Big Sam is a legend, however the way he treated us and the utter contempt he has shown since leaving us makes him just above 'Sewer Rat' in my opinion...

"I have to say there wasn't much feeling when Blackburn were relegated because of the way they treated me," he told the People.

"Bolton is a different story because I left them and I only did that because of their lack of ambition. Everyone knows how much the club means to me and always will, so I was saddened by their relegation."

So much contempt

Ok then. il upgrade him to Dog...

He still left us saying he wanted a break and never had one.

He left because he thought he was bigger than the club - he lied to us and went to Newcastle within a week.

saying nice things since then does not make him a legend - he still fucked us over.

Sorry but I loved him until he left us. Gartside should have fucked off instead.

'Did anyone on here actually see Lofthouse play?'


I would have thought that Banks Of The Croal would be close if not actually seeing him.

Lofthouse is an national team legend never mind a Bolton legend.

Boggersbelief wrote:Lofthouse is an national team legend never mind a Bolton legend.

No hes not, From Nats Era (mid last century) only West Ham players and Man united players involved in the Munich air disaster get any recognition ...

Nat Lofthouse isn't a legend to me as I never saw him play.

I don't see how anyone can call someone a legend without seeing them play. No one would call The Beatles legends if they'd never heard their music.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Nat Lofthouse isn't a legend to me as I never saw him play.

I don't see how anyone can call someone a legend without seeing them play. No one would call The Beatles legends if they'd never heard their music.

This is a Valid point actually.

Ive Met Nat Lofthouse at a charity do a few years ago - he was a true gent, a proper approachable, down to earth type bloke really.

But i never saw him play, so I suppose I cant call him a legend.

I do however, KNOW he is one...

so he is...

Natasha Whittam wrote:Nat Lofthouse isn't a legend to me as I never saw him play.

I don't see how anyone can call someone a legend without seeing them play. No one would call The Beatles legends if they'd never heard their music.

You don't have to see him play to realise he is a Bwfc legend.

Stats don't lie. Just look at how many games he played and the amount of goals he scored, couple that with they way older fans talk of him and the iconic photos of him, it doesn't take a genius.

He's also got a stand named after him, the club mascot is named after him an he's getting his own statue outside the ground.

Of course the guys a legend.

Come on chaps, football was a different game in Lofthouse's era - he wouldn't get in Barnet's team today.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Come on chaps, football was a different game in Lofthouse's era - he wouldn't get in Barnet's team today.

Nat please Dont start wumming.

Not over this anyway - Nat Lofthouse IS a true legend full stop.

Football was different back then - there was no sports scientists and fitness levels were not the same - players where real men who worked as well as playing football.

As far as the level goes from back then - Nat was the best of the best.

people may look back on messi in 50 years time and wonder what the fuck all the fuss was about...

I am not saying Lofthouse isn't a legend, I understand why to most Bolton fans he is.

But you can't compare his international scoring record with that of, say, Gary Lineker.

Lofthouse was playing in an era of football where very little football was actually played, and the opposition generally woeful. Most international games had at least 6 goals.