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Who was better in your opinion.

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Who was the better manager.

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1Who was better in your opinion. Empty Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 14:21

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Give a reason why .

I'm going for Megson, he beat the scum at home and was tactically better at setting up his team.

2Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 14:25

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Megson.

As for reasons - how long have you got?

3Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 14:45

Bernard Dennis Park

Bernard Dennis Park
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Megson.

He never got us relegated.

4Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 14:54

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bernard Dennis Park wrote:Megson.

He never got us relegated.

only because he got sacked at Christmas

Cant choose as they were both terrible in different ways.

Megson- too defensive, terrible football and a PR disaster

Coyle - couldn't get the team to defend and had no plan B

5Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:05

Bernard Dennis Park

Bernard Dennis Park
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Who knows. Coyle didn't get many more points than Megson did when he took over and 'saved us'.

Both were shit but Owen was the shitier.

6Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:05

Culcheth_White

Culcheth_White
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Megson did have a clue about tactics. Coyle hadn't a fooking clue!

7Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:06

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Megson got more stick from the fans too.

Coyle got off lightly .

8Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:08

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Megson spent a fortune on average signings thereby accelerating our financial decline so that Coyle and now Freedman had to rebuild an unsustainable and failing team with no budget. If Coyle had half the nett spend that Megson had he would have kept us up, but he was forced into letting decent players go in order to spend anything.
Didn't help himself by adopting a long-term strategy based on survival whilst the youth players came through as the stopgap players he brought in were crap and we didn't survive albeit narrowly.
Megson kept us up by throwing money at the problem. Coyle took us down by releasing expensive players and not replacing them. Both seemed to work at ideological extremes, but of the two I'd say Coyle was marginally better as with a bit of good luck and a lot less bad luck (especially with injuries to key players) we would have survived long enough to get back on an even keel.

9Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:10

Bernard Dennis Park

Bernard Dennis Park
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Nobody provoke Wanderlust on this thread.

I fear for the safety of his computer.

10Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:35

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Culcheth_White wrote:Megson did have a clue about tactics. Coyle hadn't a fooking clue!

i wouldn't class trying to draw every game 0-0 a tactic, it was truly shocking watching us when he was manager

11Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:46

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Norpig wrote:
Bernard Dennis Park wrote:Megson.

He never got us relegated.

only because he got sacked at Christmas


That season Coyle gained just ONE point more than Megson did in TWO games played more than Megson had.

We would not have got relegated under Megson - it would not have been pretty, the fans would have hated it - but we would not have been relegated.

We should not have been relegated under Coyle but his lack of having any plan whatsoever than 4-4-2 with two wingers - cost us dearly in the end as every other manager and their dog knew what to expect and how to deal with it.



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12Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 15:47

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Wanderlust hits the nail on the head like no poster has hit a nail on its head before. Bolton fans have short memories if they think Megson wasn't every bit if not nearly as suspect tactically as Coyle.
I don't get this idea that "Megson at least used to keep us up". He maintained our Premier League status on two occasions - a feat also achieved by Owen Coyle. Are we assuming on this basis that he'd have gone on to keep us up a third, fourth and fifth time? The fundamental argument for getting rid of Megson for me wasn't that the football wasn't pretty, but that it was only a matter of time before his poor use of resources and mindlessly negative tactics resulted in relegation. I find the idea that he was some misunderstood genius who'd have continued to keep us up year on year laughable.

13Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:01

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse



Definitely Coyle.

14Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:04

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doffcocker wrote:Wanderlust hits the nail on the head like no poster has hit a nail on its head before. Bolton fans have short memories if they think Megson wasn't every bit if not nearly as suspect tactically as Coyle.
I don't get this idea that "Megson at least used to keep us up". He maintained our Premier League status on two occasions - a feat also achieved by Owen Coyle. Are we assuming on this basis that he'd have gone on to keep us up a third, fourth and fifth time? The fundamental argument for getting rid of Megson for me wasn't that the football wasn't pretty, but that it was only a matter of time before his poor use of resources and mindlessly negative tactics resulted in relegation. I find the idea that he was some misunderstood genius who'd have continued to keep us up year on year laughable.


Exactly. As I said on the other thread, people have decided that just because he was negative he knew what he was doing tactically. Quite the opposite was true.

15Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:14

Tigermin


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

There are some short memories on here.Megson was the Devil Incarnate,even seeing his name makes my blood boil.Coyle got more leniency from the fans because he was a good ex player.Both were wankers but Megson,christ he was truly shite.

16Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:18

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I preferred Coyle - Megson never connected with the fans (us) - Both ended up being terrible managers though.

17Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:19

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Megson took us from playing in Europe to within a hairsbreath of relegation and Coyle became the scapegoat for how Megson left us. Megson got to spend 30 million, Coyle got nowt. Megson is the Anti Christ

18Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:22

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

bwfc1874 wrote:
Exactly. As I said on the other thread, people have decided that just because he was negative he knew what he was doing tactically. Quite the opposite was true.

Bullshit. Everyone has agreed Megson was a shit manager, just not quite as shit as Coyle.

As BDP says, one got us relegated and one didn't. Simple.

19Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:26

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Natasha Whittam wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:
Exactly. As I said on the other thread, people have decided that just because he was negative he knew what he was doing tactically. Quite the opposite was true.

Bullshit. Everyone has agreed Megson was a shit manager, just not quite as shit as Coyle.

As BDP says, one got us relegated and one didn't. Simple.

He didn't leave Coyle with a team playing in Europe and he would have got us relegated if Gartside hadn't grown a pair. He even got paid for a whole season to watch the grass grow.

20Who was better in your opinion. Empty Re: Who was better in your opinion. Tue May 28 2013, 16:28

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:
Exactly. As I said on the other thread, people have decided that just because he was negative he knew what he was doing tactically. Quite the opposite was true.

Bullshit. Everyone has agreed Megson was a shit manager, just not quite as shit as Coyle.

As BDP says, one got us relegated and one didn't. Simple.

Which part of what I said is 'bullshit'?

People have said he was okay tactically, I don't think he was.

It's a toss up for me, but as Im pretty sure Megson was taking us down sooner rather than later, Coyle comes out on top because he was less of a twat and didn't spend a fortune.

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