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21Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 16:02

Barryjw

Barryjw
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

Solskjaer? I see where your coming from, but think it's a moot question. Money wouldn't come into it as he was rated the wealthiest coach in England whilst Man U reserve manager. He wasn't interested in us and turned down Villa as he didn't want to move his family from their home in Denmark

22Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 16:06

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Knight won't start and nor will ngog, Dougie don't mess about, he's had enough. Expect a new captain to be named this week

23Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 17:47

kennster

kennster
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

scottjames30 wrote:If you could turn back time would you do everything in your power to get Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ?
No Scott. No.

24Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 18:01

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

kennster wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:If you could turn back time would you do everything in your power to get Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ?
No Scott. No.
Yes Ken . yes.

You wouldn't remember him winning the CL would you ?

You'd only be 4 Laughing 

25Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 19:00

kennster

kennster
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

scottjames30 wrote:
kennster wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:If you could turn back time would you do everything in your power to get Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ?
No Scott. No.
Yes Ken . yes.

You wouldn't remember him winning the CL would you ?

You'd only be 4 Laughing 
I was 2 actually but he still played for the United, I would struggle to accept him as manager.

26Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Sun Sep 08 2013, 19:03

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

kennster wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:
kennster wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:If you could turn back time would you do everything in your power to get Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ?
No Scott. No.
Yes Ken . yes.

You wouldn't remember him winning the CL would you ?

You'd only be 4 Laughing 
I was 2 actually but he still played for the United, I would struggle to accept him as manager.
But if he won us the championship title, you could take a shine to him ?

27Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 06:22

chipbutty

chipbutty
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

scottjames30 wrote:I mean, how much would we of sold Knight for ?

I'm guessing he's worth around 150k , some mug manager would of tried to get us down to 100k , they couldn't of wanted him sold that much, I mean he is our captain , our leader.

Have, the word is have.

28Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 13:04

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

chipbutty wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:I mean, how much would we of sold Knight for ?

I'm guessing he's worth around 150k , some mug manager would of tried to get us down to 100k , they couldn't of wanted him sold that much, I mean he is our captain , our leader.
Have, the word is have.
:cop: Grammar police alert!

29Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 14:34

chipbutty

chipbutty
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

Nothing what-so-ever to do with grammar, just a basic understanding of what words mean.

It doesn't get much simpler than that. Init.

30Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 15:05

Born to be a wanderer


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

I have  a long flight,well flights back to Manchester tomorrow,knowing Knight could be dropped would certainly ease that journey.                                                                                                                  Mark Davies hopefully back sooner than thought.Knight must be banished forever the useless tit.Has DF  finally seen what everyone else has known for time.He is shit.Lets see Saturday.

31Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 15:15

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Unfortunately he will start, because he is the best of a bad bunch, that's why we are in the shit we are in, not one quality defender in the whole squad, Baptiste apart, Dougie needs to get in the loan market sharpish, and realise he needs at least 2 quality defenders, then ship out Mills, Wheater, and hopefully Knight.

32Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 17:05

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

In the past he has compensated for his costly concentration lapses.

At the minute, he's not contributing anything useful. We might as well give Mills a chance. We've obviously not seen the best of him.

33Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Mon Sep 09 2013, 17:24

Culcheth_White

Culcheth_White
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Whoever starts in central defence, apart from Baptiste, as we haven't seen him play there yet. We all know that we'll be a complete and utter shambles at the back once again.

Mills & Knight, Knight & Ream, Ream & Wheater, Wheater & Mills, Knight & Wheater etc we probably couldn't do any worse than playing Lennie Lawrence there.

34Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 09:53

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Culcheth_White wrote:Whoever starts in central defence, apart from Baptiste, as we haven't seen him play there yet. We all know that we'll be a complete and utter shambles at the back once again.

Mills & Knight, Knight & Ream, Ream & Wheater, Wheater & Mills, Knight & Wheater etc we probably couldn't do any worse than playing Lennie Lawrence there.
Given the lack of faith in the CBs, what does development team captain Cian Bolger have to do to be given a chance?

35Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 10:02

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I can't believe there are 6 people who think Knight will be dropped.

36Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 12:31

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I don't. I think Wheater will be dropped.

37Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 12:45

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I think the idea that development squad players without a single minute of senior action will somehow be starting is a little far fetched.

38Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 13:10

JAH

JAH
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

I have voted No, more out of hope than any other reason. If DF starts with Knight after whats gone on so far this season I think my hopes of DF being a great appointment for us will be dashed! 

Why is it that our recent managerial appointments can't see the obvious stuff we can see from the stands?

Megson: Continually playing Elmo and Taylor when both should've been dropped - eventually he did drop them, but for a long time he kept on flogging the same dead horses.

Owen Coyle: Continually playing SKD when it was clear to everyone in the stadium that he was ineffectual and past it!

DF: So far this season continually playing Knight and even making him captain!

So what is it? Does the players performances in training rule the manager's decision for games. Do they not watch a replay of the matches?

39Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Tue Sep 10 2013, 13:58

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

JAH wrote:I have voted No, more out of hope than any other reason. If DF starts with Knight after whats gone on so far this season I think my hopes of DF being a great appointment for us will be dashed! 

Why is it that our recent managerial appointments can't see the obvious stuff we can see from the stands?

Megson: Continually playing Elmo and Taylor when both should've been dropped - eventually he did drop them, but for a long time he kept on flogging the same dead horses.

Owen Coyle: Continually playing SKD when it was clear to everyone in the stadium that he was ineffectual and past it!

DF: So far this season continually playing Knight and even making him captain!

So what is it? Does the players performances in training rule the manager's decision for games. Do they not watch a replay of the matches?
That's a good post and 100% spot on.

Why do managers continually overlook what is plainly obvious to everyone else? Knight has been virtually an ever present under Megson, Coyle & Freedman despite being nothing but a liability. I don't know the exact stats but I'm sure Knight has gifted the opposition a goal in most games this season. Why would any manager continue with a player like that?

Someone hit the nail on the head on another thread, if Freedman drops Knight he's admitting he made a huge mistake installing him as captain - managers don't like to admit they got it wrong, most have major ego problems.

40Will Knight Start? - Page 2 Empty Re: Will Knight Start? Wed Sep 11 2013, 09:39

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I think that it's a possibility that Prozone or similar will back up the managers on this one and I suspect the reason is that it's pretty obvious when Knight makes a cock-up as he's such a tall gangly chap and he looks like a giraffe on ice when he blunders. Add to that he's often the last defender so it's amplified when he makes a ricket in the same way it is when a goalie makes a mistake. Less obvious are the positional and application mistakes of others and comparatively Knight may in fact be less prone to error than some players who don't seem to be at fault because they are some distance from where they should be.
Just saying that it's a possibility that statistically, Knight may not be the weakest link which is why successive managers have stuck with him - the key word here being "possibility" before you start.

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