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what team would you pick for saturday v QPR

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Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:How many times do we need this argument.

as you should know nat you need to protect the back door as well.

I really don't care for your opinion on anal sex in a football thread.

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Ha ha, fair enough.

Look Lofty, I'm not saying Klasnic is some great player but he's still our leading scorer despite being sub for a big percentage of games. And remember, the majority of his games were played alongside Kevin Davies - that hardly helps.

He may be lazy but he can finish. I just feel with someone like Sordell alongside him he may score a few goals.

Yeh ok I can see where you are coming from. I think one of the main reasons we probably disagree is because I want a 4-5-1 in which Klasnic couldn't work and you want 4-4-2 in which he could. So I guess were not going to come to an agreement ha.. oh and ill try to actually re-read what im typing in the future...

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Lofty_Love wrote:

Yeh ok I can see where you are coming from. I think one of the main reasons we probably disagree is because I want a 4-5-1 in which Klasnic couldn't work and you want 4-4-2 in which he could. So I guess were not going to come to an agreement ha.. oh and ill try to actually re-read what im typing in the future...

To be honest I've spent much of the last few months arguing against 4-4-2, but we are desperate, I think anything's worth a try.

I can accept relegation if we give it a go, but if Coyle just reverts to Kevin Davies I'll be REALLY pissed.

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

If Coyle reverts to Kev I will drive to his house and punch him in the face

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
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A 4-5-1 could work with Klasnic, having NRC and Muamba holding with M.Davies sat behind him creating Klasnic chances to put away.

The only thing that's wrong with this is our style of play, if we kept it on the floor 70-80% of the time then it would go in Klasnics favour but with the long ball that gets pumped up to N'gog and Davies, Klasnic would be about as affective as a chocolate fireguard.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Klasnic needs a partner, he isn't suited to 4-5-1.

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
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Well he hasn't got a excellent choice of partners to be honest, who out of the current crop do you think would benefit him more?

-Davies
-Ngog
-Sordell

Personally as shit as he has been recently Davies has a nack of getting the best out of Klasnic, though we still know little of what Sordell can do.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It's time to give Sordell his chance, what's the point of paying £3m for someone and not using them?

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I think N'gog would suit him best, he can hold the ball and lay a pass, this has been his job for most of the season, and thats what Klasnic would need.

That said we haven't seen much of Sordell so its hard to make a judgement, I just don't want to expect to much of Sordell until next season, to do so would be unfair on him.

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I agree Sordell must be used, but as a sub for now. If he has a stormer then I have no problem with him starting

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
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If Sordell is anything like Sturridge then play him.

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

And thats exactly what I mean by expecting too much, he clearly isnt Sturridge or he would have done better at Watford. Hes young, and looks like he has a lot of potential, but he isnt Sturridge.. yet

Quent

Quent
Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka

Thing is, no one really knows until he's given a chance. For all we (and Coyle) know he might bang in a hat-trick against QPR and be a sensation. But we'll never know unless Coyle stops holding him back.

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
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Quent wrote:Thing is, no one really knows until he's given a chance. For all we (and Coyle) know he might bang in a hat-trick against QPR and be a sensation. But we'll never know unless Coyle stops holding him back.

Exactly, no one knew how good Riley was until he was given a chance, now looks like one of the best right backs at the club which isn't the hardest thing in the world but still.

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

This isn't the same situation though, Riley and Sturridge hadn't had regular first team football, thats why people didn't know their capabilities, Sordell has, at Watford.

A Watford fan I know basically said he though Sordell is a good signing, he has his really good games, but then he has ones in which he hardly features.

Ill admit I personally don't know loads about Sordells play, but he seems like work in progress.

I would love him to have a big impact this season, but im certainly not getting my hopes up that the Watford striker we bought for three million will be the next Sturridge straight away.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Desperate times call for desperate measures but OC has an obligation to the kid not to heap the pressure of expectation on his head just yet. Sure we paid good money for him, but I don't think that throwing him in as a starter will do anything to improve the rest of the team - who really have to start playing a damn sight better now that there are no excuses left.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

wanderlust wrote:Desperate times call for desperate measures but OC has an obligation to the kid not to heap the pressure of expectation on his head just yet. Sure we paid good money for him, but I don't think that throwing him in as a starter will do anything to improve the rest of the team - who really have to start playing a damn sight better now that there are no excuses left.

Dear me, you need professional help Wanderlust.

This is professional football, not the war on terror. Sordell is a well paid footballer - he should damn well be dropped in at the deep end to see how he goes. What's the worst that can happen? Will be get shot by a sniper?

Whatever your profession, if you're at the top you have to experience pressure. If you can't hack it then change jobs. I didn't get to run my empire by crying when someone put me under pressure.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm sure you can provide me with all the professional help I need Natasha. I still don't see how throwing the kid in will help. Sordell isn't at the top of his profession - he's hopefully working his way up the pecking order as we speak. If you invest £3million it's an investment worth protecting and anyway isn't it time that the other "well-paid professionals" started playing like a team?
He could be Lionel Messi, but it will make f*** all difference if we continue to defend like strangers and attack like the impaired vision school.

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

If Coyle goes for the same side as against City, we're doomed.

Ream did not do a job in the holding midfield role, Pratley is prat and Knight is in dreadful form.

----------Bogdan-----------

Riley-----Wheater----Ream-----Ricketts

Tuncay--MDavies--ReoCoker--Muamba--Myaichi

----------N'Gog/Sordell

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I actually think Ream could do a job as a DM. Definitely against lesser teams.

Against City well, no.

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