hate evans!

Evans was clearly to blame, but it was a bad tackle that happens every week in English football, I doubt very much he went into the tackle wanting to end Holden's career.

The simple fact is some people recover easily and more quickly from serious injuries, Bolton players don't.

Despite his obvious class for a brief period, he'll still go down as a stinker of a signing.

It was a 50/50 tackle but I don't like these sorts of challenges where both players lunge in studs up.

what good can come of it? If Holden could take back that tackle obviously he would 10 times out of 10. 

Natasha Whittam wrote:The simple fact is some people recover easily and more quickly from serious injuries, Bolton players don't.

What utter shite.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

What utter shite.

I stand corrected. All people recover at exactly the same rate. It's a fact.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

What utter shite.

I stand corrected. All people recover at exactly the same rate. It's a fact.

Yes, thats exactly what i said, you didn't completely make up a statement and attribute it to me, good debate.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:
Yes, thats exactly what i said, you didn't completely make up a statement and attribute it to me, good debate.

So now you're saying people don't recover at the same rate?

I wish you'd make your mind up.

If you'd made that statement "people recover at different rates" I'd completely agree, sadly you didn't. 

might want to re-read your original nonsense to clarify.

Is this injury similar to the ones Ricardo Garderner used to recover from?

OneFinFreedman wrote:Holden's studs were nowhere near making contact with Evans, Evans flew in studs first. There is a video on here

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What fucking twats saying it wasn't Evans fault. Of course it was! Re-writing history, but can't understand why you would! watch the video Duffcocker

The video clearly shows Holden's studs heading for Evans' left leg. It's only the Evans tackle that stops them getting there.

Both challenges were dangerous, it's just unfortunate for us that Evans got there first.

Natasha Whittam wrote:
The simple fact is some people recover easily and more quickly from serious injuries.

I agree.

It was an awful tackle but you see loads of them over a season and only a small minority keep players out for as long as three years.

I suggest you watch the slo-mo in the video and you can see Holden's right foot is angling to make contact with the ball with the top of his right foot. Evans leaves the ground and goes in with both feet. You don't see challenges like this today as they are trying to get them eradicated from the game for the precise reason as what happened to Stu. How the ref did not only not blow up but not even card Evans is a disgrace. Watch the video link above and it's even more clear now that Evans went in two footed where Holden was sliding in to play the ball. I can't quite believe that we are actually debating this challenge on here! You are the first Wanderers fan I have come across that thinks that. Either you are being objectionable for the sake of arguing or your a secret red!

Evans doesn't go in two footed though.

I'd say that Holden was favourite for the ball, so quite why he ended up on the floor I don't know.

However, Evans leaves the deck a good two yards away from the ball and lunges in one footed with the studs showing. Evans wins all of the ball only because he lunged in dangerously.

Copper Dragon wrote:I'd say that Holden was favourite for the ball, so quite why he ended up on the floor I don't know.

However, Evans leaves the deck a good two yards away from the ball and lunges in one footed with the studs showing. Evans wins all of the ball only because he lunged in dangerously.

I'd say Derby deserved their disallowed goal and the lad shouldn't have been sent off. Trippier should have got a yellow.

You've lost me.   

JAH wrote:I suggest you watch the slo-mo in the video and you can see Holden's right foot is angling to make contact with the ball with the top of his right foot. Evans leaves the ground and goes in with both feet. You don't see challenges like this today as they are trying to get them eradicated from the game for the precise reason as what happened to Stu. How the ref did not only not blow up but not even card Evans is a disgrace. Watch the video link above and it's even more clear now that Evans went in two footed where Holden was sliding in to play the ball. I can't quite believe that we are actually debating this challenge on here! You are the first Wanderers fan I have come across that thinks that. Either you are being objectionable for the sake of arguing or your a secret red!

Every angle shows Holden enter the challenge with pace, both feet off the ground, neither foot heading in the direction of the ball. His left foot is tucked inwards and his right foot is a good half meter wide of the ball. You can see between 13 and 15 seconds how his studs are travelling in the direction of Evans' knee.

Both players just made poorly calculated, non-malicious one-footed attempts to get the ball. I don't understand the vitriol.

Let's just face it, his legs are fucked.