Yet another Religious atrocity

Integration can be difficult. We fell out big time with a muslim family we'd known for 20 years when we were living in Farnworth.
The reason? Our dog. We had some fearful rows about it. Didn't mind them banning me from bringing him round to their place,but they wouldn't come round to ours while he was there.
The strange thing is,I know for a fact that many muslims keep a dog as a pet. Puzzling.

I'm waiting for Baroness Warsi to condemn the outrage.
Her silence is deafening.

She did yesterday. Why are you waiting for her to condemn it?

Link please?!

Kind of difficult when the very thing inspiring these attacks is a literal interpretation of the word of God in the Muslim holy book. 

All muslims believe implicitly in the messages of the Quran and the Hadith, If they don't I don't understand how they can claim to be a Muslim, I also don't know how else you can "interpret" the word of God, it's the word of God, trying to piss about with violent passages and make them peaceful is seeking to know better than God and I can't imagine you'd find any serious religious person who would claim to do that. 

people really misunderstand the dislike of Islam, it's not about "hating" Muslims or any human being, it's about reading and understanding the ideology they believe in and not wanting that to be a part of my life in any way shape or form. 

I'm sick of constant theocratic encroachments on free society. But as usual when people are slaughtered people are worried about criticism of something if written now would be regarded as criminal.

One of the reasons it is so difficult to deal with ISIS is the support they receive from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. If it wasn't for their support ISIS would be significantly weaker. But of course these two countries are supposed to be allies of America so nothing is done. The Saudi and Turkish governments hate Shiites so much that that they don't care what atrocities ISIS commit.

And as for encouraging Muslim communities in the West to condemn these terrorists that will continue to be ineffective as long as some Muslims fail to integrate into Western society. Most of the recruits from the West seem to have come from families that have not adopted Western values.

Wonderful thing religion, especially in its extreme forms. It is amazing what crap idiots will believe.

I thought every religion didn't believe in killing and fighting, it just shows how they can't be fighting over religion , and they can't believe in god.

Satan must be doing his work , and tricking people.

I think solving this issue will be the biggest challenge over the next 20 years, and i say that also painfully aware of some of the tipping points the environment will face in that time period. If you fundamentally (no pun intended) believe that all people share a common humanity, then the trick is how to create socities where eveyone respects each others different beliefs, safe in the knowledge that the core of being a human is common. And then you look at the photo of the tunisian gunman, nice, pleasant, normal looking lad, who just happened to laugh and joke with complete strangers before mowing them down in cold blood supposedly in the name of religion. I have no idea what common human characteristics, if any, we share, and what path made him think this was ok, no necessary, for the furtherance of his principles. The killers of Lee Rigby (no relative), how are they connected with a common humanity? Or you have to believe that we are all just animals, no sense of community, in it for ourselves and susceptible to any message which feeds our sense of individual entitlement. I believe in the inate goodness of people, and am humbled by the response to the charlestone killings, which i'd like to think says more about our species, than the perpetrators of it ever can.

Well worth the read.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/26/islamic-state-tunisia-kuwait-lyon-evil-sadism

Very interesting article, thanks for sharing, boncey. Does evil exist?

Chairmanda wrote:Very interesting article, thanks for sharing, boncey. Does evil exist?

Bit early to think about that.
I'm only just getting over the fact that the paper lad has delivered the Mail on Sunday instead of my usual rag.
It'll get used. Although I might have to buy a budgie.

boltonbonce wrote:

Chairmanda wrote:Very interesting article, thanks for sharing, boncey. Does evil exist?

Bit early to think about that.
I'm only just getting over the fact that the paper lad has delivered the Mail on Sunday instead of my usual rag.
It'll get used. Although I might have to buy a budgie.

Drink a bottle of Cod Liver Oil.

Your Mail will be fully used up within about an hour and a half.

(I'd cut it into handy palm sized pieces first though to save time later.)

Film any good?

Yeah, not bad.

Plenty of slapstick and visual gags based on the fact that the main protagonists don't really talk much.

Keaton and Chaplin for the modern age in glorious Technicolor and surround sound.

The only downside of going to see a film primarily aimed at small children is the fact that the theatre was filled with small children doing what small children do: Shouting, running around, crying and trying to kill each other.

And it cost me over fifty quid (including refreshments), so it's not a cheap night out.

Would recommend it though if you like daft humour.

I'll wait for the DVD to come out.
Then borrow it from the kid next door.

boltonbonce wrote:I'll wait for the DVD to come out.
Then borrow it from the kid next door.

Why wait till then?

Just download it!

karlypants wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:I'll wait for the DVD to come out.
Then borrow it from the kid next door.

Why wait till then?

Just download it!

...and that's why it cost me over fifty quid, you bastard!

Breadman wrote:

karlypants wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:I'll wait for the DVD to come out.
Then borrow it from the kid next door.

Why wait till then?

Just download it!

...and that's why it cost me over fifty quid, you bastard!