The Election

Copper Dragon wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:More confirmation for me that the majority of people are complete fucking idiots.

Tory vote share - 36.8%

Calm thi sen down.

Good point, I'll rephrase.

bwfc1874 wrote:More confirmation for me that 36.8% of people are complete fucking idiots.

This entire episode has a depressingly familiar ring to it.

Far too many working class people in this country have fallen for the Tories' lies and started believing that Cameron and his mates from The Bullingdon Club actually give a shit about them.

So they vote Tory.

However, the problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Labour Party's lack of a strong identity means that they're struggling to provide a credible alternative.

The Liberals are paying the price for Clegg's complete subservience to Cameron in the coalition, when he abandoned all his and his party's principles (- remember tuition fees?) and are now finished as a political party in this country.

Throw into the mix the rise of the SNP in Scotland, taking votes from Labour and we are where we are now.

The Tories are in but only just and it's largely down to a lack of trust in Labour and The Liberals and we're all going to be paying the price for the next five years.

This result isn't a ringing endorsement for the Tories, it's a damning indictment of our London-centric Westminster elite and it's all a bit of a mess.

In a foul fucking mood today!

karlypants wrote:In a foul fucking mood today!

Why? I thought you were right wing? A Tory majority is near enough as good as it will ever get for you.

looks like i may be working for a private company and not the NHS soon, hope people are happy with having to pay for their healthcare as thats what coming under these cunts.

Quick (and serious) question for Hipster:

Are you not concerned that the SNP may have done a bit too well?

By that I mean, presumably, the plan was always to punish Labour and hopefully take enough seats so that if the Tories were the largest party at Westminster but didn't have a majority, they'd need support from you lot to get anything through Parliament.

However, it all went a bit too well and you wiped Labour out and, in doing so, handed the election to the Tories and gave them a workable majority in the Commons, so they don't now need your lot.

So yes, you may have fifty odd MP's sitting on the opposition benches, but they're powerless.

Can you see Sturgeon doing deals with whoever the next Leader of The Opposition is to try and claw back some of the power she hoped she would achieve by giving the Labour Party a bloody nose?

And do you think whoever the next Labour Leader is will be interested or will he or she be more focussed on taking Scotland back from your lot?

No malice in any of that, purely interested in your opinion, mate.

Breadman wrote:Quick (and serious) question for Hipster:

Are you not concerned that the SNP may have done a bit too well?

By that I mean, presumably, the plan was always to punish Labour and hopefully take enough seats so that if the Tories were the largest party at Westminster but didn't have a majority, they'd need support from you lot to get anything through Parliament.

However, it all went a bit too well and you wiped Labour out and, in doing so, handed the election to the Tories and gave them a workable majority in the Commons, so they don't now need your lot.

So yes, you may have fifty odd MP's sitting on the opposition benches, but they're powerless.

Can you see Sturgeon doing deals with whoever the next Leader of The Opposition is to try and claw back some of the power she hoped she would achieve by giving the Labour Party a bloody nose?

And do you think whoever the next Labour Leader is will be interested or will he or she be more focussed on taking Scotland back from your lot?

No malice in any of that, purely interested in your opinion, mate.

Labour wiped themselves out, they won't be able to rebuild until they realise that, and clearly they haven't considering some of the hateful and bitter comments their ousted MP's engage in on social media. 

not only did they lose Scotland with their arrogant and selfish campaign, they lost England with a weak leader and feeble economic policy. At least they convinced Russell Brand.

You can never do too well in an election, this result gives them power Ed wasn't willing to grant them, he played a game with the Scottish people and lost. Cameron wants English only powers and he'll know with that comes the kind of home rule we all want up here thats real power.

Mr Magoo wrote:

 spot on Magoo

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

Breadman wrote:Quick (and serious) question for Hipster:

Are you not concerned that the SNP may have done a bit too well?

By that I mean, presumably, the plan was always to punish Labour and hopefully take enough seats so that if the Tories were the largest party at Westminster but didn't have a majority, they'd need support from you lot to get anything through Parliament.

However, it all went a bit too well and you wiped Labour out and, in doing so, handed the election to the Tories and gave them a workable majority in the Commons, so they don't now need your lot.

So yes, you may have fifty odd MP's sitting on the opposition benches, but they're powerless.

Can you see Sturgeon doing deals with whoever the next Leader of The Opposition is to try and claw back some of the power she hoped she would achieve by giving the Labour Party a bloody nose?

And do you think whoever the next Labour Leader is will be interested or will he or she be more focussed on taking Scotland back from your lot?

No malice in any of that, purely interested in your opinion, mate.

Labour wiped themselves out, they won't be able to rebuild until they realise that, and clearly they haven't considering some of the hateful and bitter comments their ousted MP's engage in on social media. 

not only did they lose Scotland with their arrogant and selfish campaign, they lost England with a weak leader and feeble economic policy. At least they convinced Russell Brand.

You can never do too well in an election, this result gives them power Ed wasn't willing to grant them, he played a game with the Scottish people and lost. Cameron wants English only powers and he'll know with that comes the kind of home rule we all want up here thats real power.

Dodged the question like Boris Johnson!

Beyond gutted

Soul Kitchen wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

Breadman wrote:Quick (and serious) question for Hipster:

Are you not concerned that the SNP may have done a bit too well?

By that I mean, presumably, the plan was always to punish Labour and hopefully take enough seats so that if the Tories were the largest party at Westminster but didn't have a majority, they'd need support from you lot to get anything through Parliament.

However, it all went a bit too well and you wiped Labour out and, in doing so, handed the election to the Tories and gave them a workable majority in the Commons, so they don't now need your lot.

So yes, you may have fifty odd MP's sitting on the opposition benches, but they're powerless.

Can you see Sturgeon doing deals with whoever the next Leader of The Opposition is to try and claw back some of the power she hoped she would achieve by giving the Labour Party a bloody nose?

And do you think whoever the next Labour Leader is will be interested or will he or she be more focussed on taking Scotland back from your lot?

No malice in any of that, purely interested in your opinion, mate.

Labour wiped themselves out, they won't be able to rebuild until they realise that, and clearly they haven't considering some of the hateful and bitter comments their ousted MP's engage in on social media. 

not only did they lose Scotland with their arrogant and selfish campaign, they lost England with a weak leader and feeble economic policy. At least they convinced Russell Brand.

You can never do too well in an election, this result gives them power Ed wasn't willing to grant them, he played a game with the Scottish people and lost. Cameron wants English only powers and he'll know with that comes the kind of home rule we all want up here thats real power.

Dodged the question like Boris Johnson!

In fairness no he didn't.

Try reading it.

Chairmanda wrote:Beyond gutted

Going into a coalition with the Tories was a monumental error, you haven't been forgiven and have a huge rebuilding job to do, I hope you do as we need the Lib Dems IMO.

chin up Manda, its a shame for Clegg as well as he seemed like a genuine man who at least tried to put the block on some of the tories more extreme policies, but he will always be remembered for the tuition fee backtrack.

All well and good, Hipster, but the fact remains that by having a workable majority in the House, Cameron doesn't need anything from your lot, so why would he bother offering Sturgeon any concessions on anything?

Your lot are just another minority party on the Opposition benches and he can (and probably will) ignore you.

If you seriously think that you're any closer to home rule than you were last night, I would respectfully suggest that that's bollocks.

And be careful what you wish for.

There's going to be an increasingly large degree of anti-Scottish sentiment peddled in the media after this result, as Cameron manipulates the press against your lot to further his agenda and the English public who had previously seen you lot as benign allies in all this will fall for it and when the next referendum on independence does come (and it will) a lot of English people will be putting pressure on the government to cede you fuck all and try and cripple Scotland if you lot do vote "yes" this time.

But you lot probably will vote "yes" to break up the Union next time and you may well wind up fucked as a result.

well thats it Cameron has his majority 

Chairmanda wrote:Beyond gutted

Genuine commiserations from me, too, Madam Chair.

On a personal level, at least you had the chance to do something that 99% wouldn't have the capability or bottle to do: Stand for Parliament.

And you've still always got a mandate on here. 


Right, that's enough doom and gloom from me.

I'm off out with the dog.

I'm going to find a tree on the golf course and sit under it, weeping gently for the next hour or so.......

I didn't lose my deposit. That's comparative success.

what was your constituency Manda?