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211euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 13:34

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@wanderlust wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:
I take xmiles at face value, and am happy to do so. In a way aren't we all fakes when we post on forums like these.
Does anyone really believe I loved Bruce Forsyth?
OMFG!
Well me for one.😀

But thanks for exemplifying the point I’ve been trying to make to the mystic one for weeks.

Although I suspect he’ll dig out a back page article from the Tasmanian Herald proving you are in fact the love child of Brucie and Anna Pavlova.

No we are not all fakes, many people post as they really are.  

I'm not saying they give all their personal details about themselves out but they are pretty honest in what they post.

The big difference between fake accounts and Wanderlust is that they 'are' fake, they can and do take opposing views of what they believe in the real world and argue black is white if they have a mind to.

With Wanderlust he's genuine but got caught in telling a lie - a big fat juicy one!

That's not being fake, that's being untruthful - being down right and deliberately deceitful - who cares if he just simply said 'I got that one wrong' or similar right from the start?

He's been banging on daily for the last four years against something he in fact voted for in real life!

He's trying to make out that's normal on the internet - it isn't.

If he had just said exactly what he did on ww - namely he felt he was misled about voting for Brexit, then that would have been that but he's one of those who can't admit to being wrong - even on the internet.

He's dug a hole for himself, not because he was trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes like fake accounts do, but because of how he is and how he wants to be perceived to be by a bunch of strangers on an obscure internet forum.

He's not playing games like the fake accounts do, he's trying to hide what he really did.

Why ffs?

Who even gives a fuck other than himself???

@wanderlust wrote:Always thought Nat is Quent. That’s not a bad thing though. Whoever Quent was had a talent for story telling and kept us entertained for ages.
Point is, it doesn’t matter if someone has multiple internet personas or indeed what they write is gospel- as long as it is entertaining, informative or thought-provoking.

Telling a far fetched fairy story is one thing deliberately telling outright lies is completely a different thing and pointing this out is most definitely "entertaining, informative" and even "thought-provoking"!

Certainly keeping me "entertained"!

Hahaha!

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212euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 13:37

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Stop dragging Lusty into this to cover for your lack of an answer on the xmiles and Okocha fake accounts, come on man answer the question!

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Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:Stop dragging Lusty into this to cover for your lack of an answer on the xmiles and Okocha fake accounts, come on man answer the question!

People 'hide' who they are on the internet - simple as that.

They ARE fake accounts but up to you if you want to accept that or not.

They weren't even an issue for several years until they decided to have a pop at me recently and - more to the point - not let it drop!  

I figure they thought I'd be more concerned about post count than confronting them - if so they were wrong about that.

Believe what you want mate, I don't think you've ever sided with me once on here - but fwiw I've always played it straight - and still do.

You've got me pegged as the 'dictator' and the one trying to ruin the forum, I'm in fact nothing like a dictator and been trying my best over the years to stop the personal agendas that were wrecking it.

We are all still here though aren't we.

If you believe I'm wrong in your eyes yet again then carry on, it doesn't change anything much in the scheme of things really does it?

214euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 14:05

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:Stop dragging Lusty into this to cover for your lack of an answer on the xmiles and Okocha fake accounts, come on man answer the question!
His whole stick isn’t based on me though. It’s another account on a different site!

Which is why he is so desperate to deflect away from his own shortcomings.

And in the absence of answers he’ll keep repeating this despite our lengthy discussion about truth, characters and storytelling on the internet. Because if anyone has been caught bang to rights it’s the mystic shitstirrer himself.

(Insert random image of your choice here)
In fact don’t bother as he already knows what you’re thinking 😀

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Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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216euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 14:40

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:
@karlypants wrote:The TrOY account needs binning as that’s highly suspicious but it’s always the usual 4 obnoxious twats on here spoiling it for everyone else.

I may as well join in as it’s the usual new season new brawl thing going on! :biggrin:

Grow a pair and respond to my question or go back to hiding away.

Hiding away? You only come on here to troll people so you get ignored.

Go and crawl back under your stone you shithouse or better still go and delete your account you waste of space!

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Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@wanderlust wrote:
@Norpig wrote:Stop dragging Lusty into this to cover for your lack of an answer on the xmiles and Okocha fake accounts, come on man answer the question!
His whole stick isn’t based on me though. It’s another account on a different site!

Which is why he is so desperate to deflect away from his own shortcomings.

And in the absence of answers he’ll keep repeating this despite our lengthy discussion about truth, characters and storytelling on the internet. Because if anyone has been caught bang to rights it’s the mystic shitstirrer himself.

(Insert random image of your choice here)
In fact don’t bother as he already knows what you’re thinking 😀

Yes different account on another site but you are the same person behind both of them.

I'm not the one whose desperately tried to deny it and I'm not the one who admitted what he actually voted for and why, yet tried to pretend on Nuts it wasn't you at all!!!

Wriggle as much as you like - you've been caught out.

Not that it means anything much other than to make folk wonder why you've behaved how you have for the last four years on a meaningless internet forum.

You even gave the answer to it yourself!

@wanderlust wrote:Admitting you’ve made a mistake is hard but it’s much harder to admit you’ve been used as a pawn in somebody else’s game.

Admitting a mistake is not hard, normal people do that all the time in 'real' life.

Clearly you don't if you have to go to such extraordinary lengths on here to hide a fib so trivial, insignificant and such an unimportant little thing to everybody else's mind apart from your own!

And you try to make out I'm the one with issues!

Yeah right.

218euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 15:11

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Sluffy wrote:
They ARE fake accounts but up to you if you want to accept that or not.

They weren't even an issue for several years until they decided to have a pop at me recently and - more to the point - not let it drop!  

I figure they thought I'd be more concerned about post count than confronting them - if so they were wrong about that.
I really don't know what you mean by "fake accounts". Please explain. I have asked you previously but never had a reply.
I have only ever had one account.
Does my membership period qualify as "several years" in your estimation?

What did I have "a pop" at you about? And why would I, after "several years"?
 I don't call anyone out unless they are being ridiculous or deliberately unkind, and even then I am civil and certainly not persistent.
 The only thing I don't "let drop" are my views on this government....and I will stop when they show some honesty, humanity and morality. I've never harangued you.

I consider post count to be totally without value. I never congratulate anyone on reaching a landmark count. It's meaningless to me. I don't even know what my count is.

Two observations:- 1. You returned, after a relatively recent absence from the site, with a much-changed attitude. I don't know why. Am I imagining things?

2. You seem to have chosen to pick fights with posters who are amongst the more intelligent, interesting and articulate ones. Why?
 Again...just my imagination??
(I'm not including myself in that group, by the way!)

219euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 16:12

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@Sluffy wrote:

They ARE fake accounts but up to you if you want to accept that or not.

They weren't even an issue for several years until they decided to have a pop at me recently and - more to the point - not let it drop!  


My account is not fake and I have never posted on here under another identity or account.

Presumably what you really mean by "have a pop at me" is dare to disagree with you or question your logic. If I am mistaken please show me what I did to justify the ban you imposed on me.

220euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Sep 16 2020, 16:39

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Ok I'll spell it out.

You are fake accounts.

You are playing a deliberate game and quite clearly want to push on with it.

This site is for (or was) the enjoyment of everybody - not just a few to enjoy themselves even though it pisses off everyone else.

It either stops now or there will be consequences.

The consequences could be you get banned or I walk away or maybe even both but things will not return to how they have been - there's simply no point continuing like this anymore.

If that's what you want then press on and see where it gets us.

If not then just pack in all the game playing and lets move on.

Try me if you think I'm bluffing.

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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Boggers, Magoo, AD, Scott.....all fakes? I need to know the truth... :falltopieces:

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T.R.O.Y.


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Nobody needs to get banned or walk away.

X/Okocha - you won’t get anything out of Sluffy, whether he really believes your fake or not I’m not sure but rest assured nobody else does.

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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

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xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:Nobody needs to get banned or walk away.

X/Okocha - you won’t get anything out of Sluffy, whether he really believes your fake or not I’m not sure but rest assured nobody else does.

Thanks. Smile

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gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
TROY, you've become quite abusive and aggressive in the last 3 or 4 weeks. Is this one of your alter egos taking over ? (just kidding)  Very Happy

Sluffy, enough of this silliness. Either put up all the details, or give it a rest. If this means you decide to pick up the ball and take it home, so be it. We're on this forum because we like it, but if it carries on, you'll lose the lot of us.

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okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Thanks from me too, Troy

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:
I personally can't see the EU 'blocking' us out of everything if we did leave the EU, nor such things as immigration and pay levels, etc, changing that vastly in the future if we did stop in the EU than if we had of left.

I do think however that one size does not fit all and that we should have some say and power over things that do effect us.

I guess that probably puts me more in the 'out of the EU' camp than in it but I think I will probably be in the minority on this nationally.

Hope this helps in some way.
:rofl:

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:My wet liberal view is we should be in it to change it.

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:Ignoring all the claims and counterclaims from two very negative campaigns, I still can't see any advantages of leaving. I mean what would we gain?

All I hear is that if we leave, we'll be able to renegotiate the deals we have now and maybe in a few years time we'll get what we currently have.

We've systematically dismantled our own industries so we'll always be dependent on imports so seriously, does anyone know what we have to gain by leaving?
Shocked

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:
We're in it now RT so we pretty much know what the benefits are - it's just that we take them for granted. For me, we don't need reasons to change because the reality is it ain't so bad being in Europe and we benefit from the all deals we've negotiated over the last 40 years.

But if we're going to change, there ought to be very good reasons for that, especially as there's a possibility that we may lose the benefits we currently enjoy.
Therefore I think it's down to the leave group to provide a list of benefits of why we should change - whereas the stay party don't need to list the benefits to convince me.
I never got an answer as to any benefits of leaving - wonder why?

232euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Dec 09 2020, 15:50

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Well you might have been thinking not to vote for Brexit but on the day you say you did!

@Sluffy wrote:Allow me to 'bump' this being what YOU wrote voluntarily and without even being asked or questioned about how you voted on Brexit!!!

"One of the hardest things to do is to admit you were conned and manipulated but I'm prepared to do it as I voted to Leave with the free trade deal I was promised in the referendum. After all it was going to be "the easiest in human history" to negotiate especially as "we hold all the cards". Nobody is prepared to consider that they have been manipulated, believed lies they were told and nobody likes being taken for a mug which is presumably why the conversation has been closed down and rather than manning up, many leavers are now trying to say no deal is what they voted for all along and that all leave voters voted for the same thing. We didn't".

http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/88073-in-or-out-again/?do=findComment&comment=1934938

And don't give me the bullshit you aren't that poster, Norpig can confirm it was you.

Rolling Eyes

233euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Dec 09 2020, 16:27

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Don't drag me into your war for Gods sake  Shocked

234euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Dec 09 2020, 17:01

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:Don't drag me into your war for Gods sake  Shocked

It's not a war and I know you are a mate of Wanderlust but the bottom line is that he wrote something and you can confirm that - whether you do or not is another matter - but you do know the truth of it.

I've no problem Wanderlust or anyone else voting for Brexit, that is their right and privilege to do so.

I've no problem people telling lies - especially on the internet - I don't expect people to be as honest as I attempt to be - but if someone is crackers to post his hatred for years and years about people voting Brexit - then admit he did so himself - ironic to say the least - then trying to make out it wasn't him that made the post - and now digging up old threads trying to pretend he never voted for Brexit, and making out I was LIBELING him - then I'll fire back.

It's fairly clear to me that his behaviour isn't normal even for the internet so I will leave it at that but I'm certainly not libelling anyone - what he wrote is there in black and white for everyone to see.

If he regrets voting for Brexit - fine, everybody makes mistakes and there seems to be only him concerned that he did - and he even admits to it on another forum - yet for some reason important to only himself, he doesn't want to be seen to be wrong about anything on this one and goes to these ridiculous lengths and accusations to be seen not to!

Bizarre to say the least.

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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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236euro referendum 23rd June - Page 8 Empty Re: euro referendum 23rd June Wed Dec 09 2020, 19:41

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@gloswhite wrote:
Sluffy, enough of this silliness. Either put up all the details, or give it a rest. If this means you decide to pick up the ball and take it home, so be it. We're on this forum because we like it, but if it carries on, you'll lose the lot of us.
Glos, Nat, TROY have not been heard from very much for quite a while and unresolved battles are still taking place involving both xmiles and wanderlust. 

It's a shame, given that these are some of our most intelligent, interesting and entertaining posters.

Is there some way of resolving differences amicably?.....

In peace...Okocha

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:
Glos, Nat, TROY have not been heard from very much for quite a while and unresolved battles are still taking place involving both xmiles and wanderlust. 

It's a shame, given that these are some of our most intelligent, interesting and entertaining posters.

Is there some way of resolving differences amicably?.....

In peace...Okocha
Yes. Every time I comment about Brexit which I neither wanted nor voted for - as evidenced by every post I have ever made on the subject - Stuffy trots out a line claiming that I voted for it - a claim made by a different poster on a different website - thereby attempting to invalidate my comments regardless of how informative they may be.
He has made the same comment at least 20 times, probably more.
I have no idea why he feels the need to rake this up again and again.

To resolve the issue, he simply has to resist repeating himself ad nauseam.

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Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
You really need to get help.

Just because you posted on Wanderers Ways under a different user name doesn't mean it is somebody else that's posting - it's still you!!!

Norpig knows the truth, you even messaged each other!!!

I've no idea why you want to lie and try to pretend it wasn't you but you've seem to have forgotten the numerous post you made about me/to me, whilst you were on there like these - here's one having a pop at me...

"You'll have to excuse Sluffy - he's my been my stalker since I pulled him out of Anderson's arse and ripped him a new one of his own.

BTW you seem to be using bold yourself fool. I keep telling to read things properly, sweetheart...."
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1874464

There's this one where Chris Custard (I wonder what ever happened to him!) pointed out that you - being a Business Consultant (or so you tell us) were out in your sums by no less than £186m!!!
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1882186

Still makes me laugh that one.

Or this one where he's giving me personal abuse (again!)
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1882476

Here's his favourite Ron Billionaire story that he was told of by a bloke at the pub down in Norfolk!

Most be true then -  :rofl:
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1887809

Here's one where he 'outs' himself as Wanderlust!

"You know better than most that I've had suspicions about Anderson's competence and honesty as expressed over the last two years and equally you know that I've reiterated time and again that they are just suspicions and in the light of that I put this to you:

Could Anderson...etc, etc".
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1891288

Here's another pop at me from him!
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1891771

Here's one where he thought he'd scored a point against me - he hadn't!
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1894057

Here's my reply to him...

"Eh???

You're as bad as Bonnar for posting pissed up shite in the middle of the night.

You were banned from Nuts for persistent abuse to myself and others after multiple warnings, and several temporary bans because of it, over a long period of time.  

You are utterly wrong to believe that you are entitled to post your wild twitter based hatred filled abuse laden rants against anyone as 'your right', as you will no doubt find on this forum too, if you dare to personally abuse these mods a fraction of what we tolerated from you.

My post which you quote isn't even about Anderson per se, it's about speculating if the hotel would possibly be sold off from the Burnden Leisure umbrella, in order to reduce the cost of the clubs purchase to simplify things, namely the settlement of a secured creditor (Anderson) maybe even James to an extent(?) thus reducing significantly the costs of exiting Administration for any potential purchaser of the club".
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1894070

Here's him accepting that I am indeed talking to him as Wanderlust...
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/topic/89431-take-over/?do=findComment&comment=1894090

Oh I could go on but what's the point - Wanderlust posted on WandersWays under the user name of Hoppy510 - he posted on there that he voted for Brexit.

I've no idea why Wanderlust wants to lie about it - it isn't even of any importance to anyone apart from obviously himself - but lie and deceive he has.

Nobody gives a monkey who he voted for and nobody would even have blinked an eye if he said 'I voted for Brexit but I now know that to have been a mistake' instead he's tried to manipulate and deceive to make out it wasn't him.

I honestly don't get it, we are a tiny forum of what about 20 regulars if that, all of us strangers to each other who have never met each other and probably never will, so why the pretence - non of us actually care about him voting for Brexit frankly, or that he now regrets it.

What's the point in being caught out in a lie denying it?

In real life wouldn't it be the right thing to do just to admit you made a mistake, an error of judgement, fell for something you shouldn't have, got it wrong - rather than deny, lie, cheat, hide from the truth, be deceitful, be dishonest, be untrustworthy.

To do it on here where no one even knows who you are or even cares what you've done and you STILL try to hide it and cover up, well words fail me quite honestly - why do it?

That's not normal behaviour even on the internet.

You need to get some counselling mate.

You need help.

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Must have taken you hours to dig out all that nonsense and your research is comprehensive to the extent that you have trawled other forums  to find other posters to misquote and take out of context  so I have to give you 7 out of ten if only for the effort.
Haven't decided what to set you for tonight's homework yet - I'll get back to you after footie.

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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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