Shootings in America.

Oh, and the guy had also boobytrapped his flat ready for when it gets raided.

He's made his first court appearance today.

An attention seeking psychopath who deserves a place on death row.

I've not followed this case much, I didn't think it had been established that he is a psychopath.

I totally disagree with the death penalty personally, just my opinion.

He was heavily sedated in court or appeared to be, he couldn't keep his eyes open and was wild eyed. (at times)

I do wonder what happened to this young man, to go from honour role student, flourishing in college to murderer in a month.

Exactly, Hipster. I worry about people making assumptions and calling for his death. It's the Daily Mail and The Sun's opinion.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I totally disagree with the death penalty personally, just my opinion.

But if he's found guilty what's the point of keeping him alive in prison for decades, because he's never going to be let out. Cheaper to flick the switch.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I totally disagree with the death penalty personally, just my opinion.

But if he's found guilty what's the point of keeping him alive in prison for decades, because he's never going to be let out. Cheaper to flick the switch.

You're a shining pillar for aspiring Christians everywhere.

largehat wrote:

You're a shining pillar for aspiring Christians everywhere.

Have you read the bible, it's one of the most vicious stories ever told. Killing one mass murderer is nowt compared to what goes on in the book.

largehat wrote:Exactly, Hipster. I worry about people making assumptions and calling for his death. It's the Daily Mail and The Sun's opinion.

according to reports i've read he was caught red handed in the cinema with the murder weapon in his hands. i'm confident they have the right man. and he should burn.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

largehat wrote:

You're a shining pillar for aspiring Christians everywhere.

Have you read the bible, it's one of the most vicious stories ever told. Killing one mass murderer is nowt compared to what goes on in the book.

That's a really retarded come back, even for a fake internet persona who poses as a Christian.

Most of modern Christianity is based on the New Testament, and the morality is dominated by the Gospels, in which the central character, Jesus, forgives people their sins.

not-so-plain-jayne wrote:

largehat wrote:Exactly, Hipster. I worry about people making assumptions and calling for his death. It's the Daily Mail and The Sun's opinion.

according to reports i've read he was caught red handed in the cinema with the murder weapon in his hands. i'm confident they have the right man. and he should burn.

lol - i don't think anyone is disputing they have the right man bud.

largehat wrote:

That's a really retarded come back, even for a fake internet persona who poses as a Christian.

Most of modern Christianity is based on the New Testament, and the morality is dominated by the Gospels, in which the central character, Jesus, forgives people their sins.

Let's assume he is found guilty, do you still believe it's better to keep a mass murderer in prison for potentially 50+ years than put him to death?

largehat wrote:I've not followed this case much, I didn't think it had been established that he is a psychopath.

When he was arrested he told the police that he was the Joker, Batman's nemesis. Some psychopathic traits are grandiose self-worth, pathological lying, lack of remorse or guilt, callousness and lack of empathy, need for stimulation or proneness to boredom, poor behavioural controls, impulsivity, irresponsibility, failure to accept responsibility for ones own actions, etc etc.

He ticks all the boxes for me but then again what do I know, being a Sun reader.

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Let's assume he is found guilty, do you still believe it's better to keep a mass murderer in prison for potentially 50+ years than put him to death?

I've already stated in previous discussions that I am morally opposed to the death penalty.

Reebok Trotter wrote:
He ticks all the boxes for me but then again what do I know, being a Sun reader.

Just a case of wait and see. You can bet he will be thoroughly evaluated.

Like Hipster said, the most interesting thing to establish will be what happened to this young man in the month leading up to the event.

largehat wrote:
Like Hipster said, the most interesting thing to establish will be what happened to this young man in the month leading up to the event.

I'll tell you what happened. He spent the month prior to the event planning and scheming as to how many people he could kill and how many innocent lives he could destroy. He probably booby trapped his apartment in case he was killed by the cops at the cinema. It would be his way of killing a few more innocent people and add to his notoriety.

No doubt in time we will be treated to some sob story about how he was bullied at school or girls didn't understand him etc etc.

His self pitying excuses which will no doubt be churned out as some sort of excuse for his actions, will not cut any ice with the families of the victims. I don't agree with capital punishment carte blanche but I believe exceptions should be made for pre-meditated serial killing. The only certain way to prevent these type of individuals from harming anyone in the future is to exterminate them like cockroaches.

They gave up their right to life when they took the lives of innocent victims and as such should not have the right to breathe fresh air.

Lots of assumptions and emotion in that post RT. I prefer to cut through all the emotion and look at the facts in a balanced way. Like everyone else, he has the right to a fair trial, this is one of the cornerstones of democracy. If you were a US citizen selected for jury service you would rightly be stepped down, you've pre-conceived his motivations, the circumstances of the case and have already 'passed sentence' on him in your mind.

Like I said, it's a case of wait and see.

I would never deny anyone the right to a fair trial. It is the cornerstone of every free and just society in any democracy. The ' circumstances ' of the case do not interest me. All the press attention will be focused on this piece of garbage wrapped in human skin rather than the victims whose lives have been changed forever.

I don't think there is any doubt as to who carried out this evil crime. He was caught red handed at the scene. No doubt one of the main questions at his trial will be why ?

I know the answer. It's because he is a cnut.

How can you agree that he has a right to a fair trial having written off whatever his defence may be in the previous post? You also state he has no right to breathe fresh air. You've decided his guilt, you're not interested in his defence or the circumstances, and you've decided his sentence.

Or is it that you believe in fair trials so long as you don't have to be part of it because some people don't deserve fair trials after all? I don't get it.