Brexit negotiations

Why would Boris make such a good leader then Karly?

We really must be in a mess when reasonably sane people? are quoting Boris as the answer to our problems.

T.R.O.Y wrote:Unless karly was there.

I don’t like bullies

Stop stalking me then Dan lad.

xmiles wrote:And we now have the spectacle of Labour brexit rebels keeping May in power.

They were voting about whether or not the UK should have the option of a Customs Union should no deal be agreed which would facilitate passage of goods and supplies between the UK and the EU - rather than barriers, taxes and border checks - something that the import/export business community is desperate for.

I reckon that the biggest irony (apart from Labour becoming the party that supports business) was the DUP voting unanimously to prevent a Customs Union when Northern Ireland voted 56% to 44% in favour of remain and NO barrier with the South.

I know that the Tories bought the DUP with taxpayer's money, but in Northern Ireland this issue was central and the biggest concern for NI voters, yet they've stuffed them. I guess the third irony was that us taxpayers funded the DUP to f*** over their own supporters?

Cheating to win a vote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44886069

xmiles wrote:Cheating to win a vote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44886069

Yeah - mentioned it in 889 - surprised the media hadn't run with it before as it breaks with years of parliamentary code, but nowt will be done just as nothing will be done about the cheating in the EU referendum.

It's even worse than previously reported...it wasn't some mistake, but a plan to derail the democratic process.

Chairmanda wrote:It's even worse than previously reported...it wasn't some mistake, but a plan to derail the democratic process.

Once upon a time there would have been a public outcry leading to sackings and/or resignations but democracy is held cheap these days and cheating the voters has become so commonplace that it's almost as if we accept it as normal.

The more we let them get away with it, the more it will happen.

This seems so very applicable to Trump and brexit supporters.

“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Chairmanda wrote:It's even worse than previously reported...it wasn't some mistake, but a plan to derail the democratic process.

I agree Amanda, its really not on. However, is it actually a written down and 'in the rules', democratic process, i.e. can anyone actually be disciplined for it, other than their own party ? 
I believe some will hit the fan, but very little of it will stick, unfortunately.

Brexit postponed!

May announces that the UK will remain under EU law for at least an additional 19 months beyond the date she had promised i.e. until the end of 2020.

It is still unclear whether or not the UK will continue to be represented in Brussels throughout the extended period.

Interesting selection of lies spread by convicted brexit campaign cheats:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44966969

Time to wind up Nat again by posting some facts about brexit:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45351288

Why would that wind me up? I always buy Sony.

Noticed nobhead Nigel's first big leave means leave rally is being held in Bolton 

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1034496541065719808

Norpig wrote:Noticed nobhead Nigel's first big leave means leave rally is being held in Bolton 

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1034496541065719808

Cheers Norpig have just added the date in my diary!

I'm meeting xmiles there.

Norpig wrote:Noticed nobhead Nigel's first big leave means leave rally is being held in Bolton 

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1034496541065719808

Remind me - what does the second "leave" mean again?

I hate to say this but Panasonic will not be the last, not even close. I fully expect Nissan and Ford to follow suit and I wouldn't be surprised if a great many more manufacturing and service companies did the same. Brexit is going to be an unmitigated disaster for this country that our children and grandchildren will spend decades paying the price for long after the idiots who actually voted for it including my dad are dead and gone.

Frankly the politics (far too dignified a term for what it really is) of bigotry and hate have won and they won in the US too which is why they have the worst President in the entire history of their nation sitting in the White House. It's a bad time all over for anything that smacks of tolerance and reason and I only hope people wake up to that fact soon, very soon or it'll be too late.