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1Arsene Wenger Empty Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 10:01

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He is stepping down at the end of the season.



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2Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 10:04

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He should have gone ages ago.

3Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 10:56

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He probably should have gone a year or two ago before things turned stale but he will go down as one of the best Managers in the Premiership, if only for the invincibles as that was an amazing achievement.

It will be interesting to see who comes in to replace him, big shoes to fill like when Fergie and Big Sam left.

4Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:16

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Wonder if there's another club in the offing for him. Football is his life,and I can't see him being satisfied with a media role.

5Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:17

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Vieira is the current Fave with the bookies at 2/1, followed by Brendan Rodgers (3/1), Thomas Tuchel (5/1), Joachim Loew (7/1)

6Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:19

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Tony Pulis. 200/1

7Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:20

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
French national team.

Don't know how true it is but I heard the name Owen Coyle has been mentioned a few times by arsenal insiders.

8Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:27

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:French national team.

Don't know how true it is but I heard the name Owen Coyle has been mentioned a few times by arsenal insiders.
Very Happy

9Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:33

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Big Sam could be looking for a job soon, ideal for Arsenal. (not)

10Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:33

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

11Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:35

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

12Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:38

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I wonder if Parky will stay at Bolton for nearly 22 years?



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13Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:38

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

14Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:41

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Wonder if there's another club in the offing for him. Football is his life,and I can't see him being satisfied with a media role.
 I bet he ends up at PSG

15Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:42

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:French national team.

Don't know how true it is but I heard the name Owen Coyle has been mentioned a few times by arsenal insiders.
Are they after a new table tennis coach at Arsenal?

16Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:46

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hope all the Arsenal moaners are happy now. They seem to think they have a God given right to success.
One of them even rang in to a talk show last week saying that,although Arsenal have won a few trophies over the past few seasons,they were the 'wrong' trophies.
They have a breathtaking sense of entitlement.

17Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:51

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Most teams who've lost a long term manager have struggled when the new manager comes in (including us with Big Sam), look at how long Moyes lasted at the red filth. Whoever gets the job shouldn't get too comfy i reckon.

18Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:53

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'll be seething if they get Mickey Adams before we do.

19Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 11:56

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Arsenal fans already writing articles about Coyle.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/643432-owen-coyle-not-arsene-wenger-should-be-arsenal-manager

Matter of time

20Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 12:11

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
in 2011, just 7 years ago be touted for the Arsenal job. Oh dear, how the mighty have fallen.

21Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 12:45

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He's looking for a career in comedy.

22Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 15:03

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
@Cajunboy wrote:I wonder if Parky will stay at Bolton for nearly 22 years?
22 Months would be too fucking long.

23Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 15:54

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Are you ok Martin, we missed your calm and measured posts after the Barnsley 2-2 draw.

24Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 15:55

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Very Happy

25Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 16:36

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Wenger has been the most successful manager in Arsenal's history and although his austere approach to transfers has frustrated their fans, he has produced some great football, produced some great players (notably turning Thierry Henry from a decent winger into a great striker) and overseen the transition to a new stadium that has given them the earning potential to compete with the likes of Manure.
I'm glad that he will be leaving on a positive note - giving the club time to line up a replacement - rather than being fired at the end of a great career at Arsenal. 
Pretty sure that their next manager will be foreign.

26Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Fri Apr 20 2018, 23:14

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
He WAS a great manager once. An absolute genius. Only Fergie in the English game could compare, and The Invtncibles team he built were brilliant. But that was then and this is now! Arsenal have been going backwards season upon season for years now and it's mainly been due to Wenger having too much control at the club. He's been reluctant to shell out what it takes in terms of transfer fees and wages for the really top class players needed to be at the top of the English game (and all credit to him for that) but really, considering what Arsenal fans shell out to watch their team it's just not good enough for a club of their standing. They still have some talented players but really the playing squad is a bit of a mess and they have no steel in their side which the likes of Vierra and Petit used to provide. They have too many ordinary players like Xhaka and El Neni who just aren't up to what's required at that level. Add to that the fact they have now turned into a club prepared to sell it's best players (Sanchez, Van Persie, etc) and you see a club prepared to settle for mediocrity on the field in exchange for a healthy looking balance sheet. Ambition has been something totally lacking from the sleeping giant of a club which is Arsenal and Wenger has been a major cause of that without a doubt. Thats why there will be millions of Arsenal fans heaving a huge sigh of relief tonight safe in the thought that Wenger is FINALLY going. And I don't blame them one bit.

27Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Sat Apr 21 2018, 12:27

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hip Priest wrote:He WAS a great manager once. An absolute genius. Only Fergie in the English game could compare, and The Invtncibles team he built were brilliant. But that was then and this is now! Arsenal have been going backwards season upon season for years now and it's mainly been due to Wenger having too much control at the club. He's been reluctant to shell out what it takes in terms of transfer fees and wages for the really top class players needed to be at the top of the English game (and all credit to him for that) but really, considering what Arsenal fans shell out to watch their team it's just not good enough for a club of their standing. They still have some talented players but really the playing squad is a bit of a mess and they have no steel in their side which the likes of Vierra and Petit used to provide. They have too many ordinary players like Xhaka and El Neni who just aren't up to what's required at that level. Add to that the fact they have now turned into a club prepared to sell it's best players (Sanchez, Van Persie, etc) and you see a club prepared to settle for mediocrity on the field in exchange for a healthy looking balance sheet. Ambition has been something totally lacking from the sleeping giant of a club which is Arsenal and Wenger has been a major cause of that without a doubt. Thats why there will be millions of Arsenal fans heaving a huge sigh of relief tonight safe in the thought that Wenger is FINALLY going. And I don't blame them one bit.  
Some people have suggested that Arsenal fans "expected success" and I'd argue that such expectations were only possible because of what Wenger achieved earlier in his tenure.
But to suggest they've gone backwards since then is pretty damned picky given that success is relative.
In the last 10 years that they're all whingeing about, they've qualified for the Champions league every season, won 3 FA Cups, 2 Charity Shields and are in with a chance to win the Europa League this year.
Hardly failure.
Sure they haven't thrown money at winning the league or competing in Europe like some teams have but that austerity has helped Arsenal to achieve  very strong financial base on which to build.
Success is relative I'd be in dreamland if BWFC ever got anywhere near what Arsenal have achieved in Wenger's "years of failure".

28Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Sat Apr 21 2018, 12:31

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
You’ve just said yourself success is realative, and relative to their revenue 3 FA cups (don’t try and include charity shields) and consistent failure in Champions League knockout stages can only be deemed a failure.

29Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Sat Apr 21 2018, 17:57

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
So relieved that Wenger will be leaving.

Sick of him, sick of hearing Arsenal fans moan about him, sick of the media obsessing over him. It's like a reality show that's well past being interesting.

There's no doubt that his brand of football is great when it works - like it has done in the three out of twenty+ seasons that he's been there. But he's only really got that one style so it's no surprise that the wins have been so sporadic.

In terms of him as a bloke, he's been amazing for the English game at times, pretty despicable at others. Some of his displays of sportsmanship (or lack of) have been appalling, unforgivable even.

All in all, not very upset to see the back of the man. That's not to say Arsenal will necessarily be any better off, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still no better than Liverpool, Spurs, United, City in a few years time.

30Arsene Wenger Empty Re: Arsene Wenger on Sun Apr 22 2018, 09:32

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I actually think he's overrated.

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