Evidence?Hipster_Nebula wrote:wanderlust wrote:It's true that politicians don't always deliver the manifesto they were elected on. However they always have just the one manifesto which isn't self-contradictory.Hipster_Nebula wrote:I think the point went over your head lusty.
I'm talking about people not getting what they voted for. Which happens in every election....ever.
Unlike the Leave campaign.
Yes and prospective MPs/MPs never say anything contradictory on the campaign trail and on the door step do they.
It's always 100% in line with the manifesto.
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981 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 12:17
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
983 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 12:41
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Hipster_Nebula wrote:The dementia tax?
Surely May reversed that policy whilst pathetically bleating that "nothing has changed".
984 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 12:43
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Exactly. I voted for that policy and I didn't see it the queen's speech.
985 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 12:45
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Jay Jay Okocha
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Exactly. I voted for that policy and I didn't see it the queen's speech.
Your memory is failing. She changed it before the election not after!
986 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 12:48
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
It was in the manifesto.
987 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 13:07
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Hipster_Nebula wrote:It was in the manifesto.
True but she dropped it before the election not after.
988 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 13:50
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Four days after unveiling the plans, Theresa May announced the manifesto commitment would be changed by adding a cap on total contributions people would be asked to pay.
Mrs May's comments appear to put her at odds with her own Health Secretary who told the BBC last week: "Not only are we dropping it (the cap) but we are dropping it ahead of a general election and we're being completely explicit in our manifesto that we're dropping it.
So not dropped but changed, but dropped by the health secretary. Two people with completely contradictory positions from the same side.
Which vision were people actually voting for? No contradictions in general elections as lusty said.
Mrs May's comments appear to put her at odds with her own Health Secretary who told the BBC last week: "Not only are we dropping it (the cap) but we are dropping it ahead of a general election and we're being completely explicit in our manifesto that we're dropping it.
So not dropped but changed, but dropped by the health secretary. Two people with completely contradictory positions from the same side.
Which vision were people actually voting for? No contradictions in general elections as lusty said.
989 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 13:59
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
It was in the manifesto and they did campaign on it.Hipster_Nebula wrote:The dementia tax?
When they dropped it they then campaigned on the revised manifesto.
So have you got a better example of the point you are trying to make? - because it looks like you're trying to represent opinion as fact again.
Although to be fair, the Tory candidate round here didn't know his arse from his elbow, let alone what the manifesto said he was going to deliver. Obviously he was elected anyway.
990 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 13:59
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
It was in the manifesto and they did campaign on it.Hipster_Nebula wrote:The dementia tax?
When they dropped it they then campaigned on the revised manifesto.
So have you got a better example of the point you are trying to make? - because it looks like you're trying to represent opinion as fact again.
Although to be fair, the Tory candidate round here didn't know his arse from his elbow, let alone what the manifesto said he was going to deliver. Obviously he was elected anyway.
991 Re: Brexit negotiations Wed Feb 20 2019, 14:30
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Did you forget already that you posted about dementia, Wanderlust?
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