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301Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 15:31

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Today is the day we were supposed to leave isn't it - and we are still no wiser what the plan is?

It's a joke.

For me it is about the will of the people BUT that will isn't fixed and changes over time and circumstances and that's why government policies change and political party's get voted in and voted out.

It's clear that some/many people who voted for Brexit have since the referendum changed their minds - of course some/many will still think the same.

What we should do is put it to the people again and see what result we get after all this faffing about over the last two and a half years.

If it stays in favour of Brexit we should come out immediately without any agreements - and suffer the consequences no matter what.  If it comes out remain we should revoke our desire to leave the EU and commit to it for at least another say two years of the EU cycle (a further 10 years).

By that time surely we would have come up with an agreed master plan to leave the EU in a mutually beneficial way to all if the public seek a further referendum in the future.

It's not rocket science, easily achievable and does what the public wants.

Of course this will never happen though.

302Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 17:19

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Exactly sluffy, we need to ask people what they want now it is a lot clearer what brexit will mean. That is democracy and oddly so few brexiteers seem willing to do this.

Three years is a very long time in politics and politicians change their minds all the time so why can't voters?

303Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 17:30

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Exactly whens the next Scottish independence referendum behind held.

304Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 17:32

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
No problem with that Hipster. If we stay in the EU I suspect Scotland will stay in the UK.

305Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 18:41

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Vote Leave has dropped its appeal over breaking electoral law, so guilty as charged of illegally exceeding spending limits. So much for democracy.

306Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 19:09

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Leave won FFS get over it it won't change. Remainers will keep wanting another referendum until they win but they won't win so stop dreaming.

307Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 19:11

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Another referendum will just be a bigger leave vote after all this shit.

308Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 19:33

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:No problem with that Hipster. If we stay in the EU I suspect Scotland will stay in the UK.

How often should we have these referenda considering people are obviously allowed to change their minds.

309Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 22:22

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@xmiles wrote:No problem with that Hipster. If we stay in the EU I suspect Scotland will stay in the UK.

How often should we have these referenda considering people are obviously allowed to change their minds.

How often do you suggest?

310Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 22:23

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Angry Dad wrote:Another referendum will just be a bigger leave vote after all this shit.

So why are brexiteers so afraid to have a referendum then?

311Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 22:53

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@xmiles wrote:No problem with that Hipster. If we stay in the EU I suspect Scotland will stay in the UK.

How often should we have these referenda considering people are obviously allowed to change their minds.

How often do you suggest?

Every four years?

312Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 29 2019, 22:54

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@xmiles wrote:No problem with that Hipster. If we stay in the EU I suspect Scotland will stay in the UK.

How often should we have these referenda considering people are obviously allowed to change their minds.

How often do you suggest?

Every four years?

How convenient.

313Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 01:06

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@xmiles wrote:
@Angry Dad wrote:Another referendum will just be a bigger leave vote after all this shit.

So why are brexiteers so afraid to have a referendum then?
They don't fear anything they are brave unlike the whinging coward remainers but we are angry that we have been betrayed and sick of this pathetic whinging from sore losers.

314Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 01:08

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
You're not getting another vote you lost live with it and shut the fuck up.

315Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 10:11

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Angry Dad wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@Angry Dad wrote:Another referendum will just be a bigger leave vote after all this shit.

So why are brexiteers so afraid to have a referendum then?
They don't fear anything they are brave unlike the whinging coward remainers but we are angry that we have been betrayed and sick of this pathetic whinging from sore losers.

So hold another referendum if you are so confident that you will win it.

316Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 10:11

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Angry Dad wrote:You're not getting another vote you lost live with it and shut the fuck up.

Big fan of democracy are you?

317Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 10:32

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The issue is quite obviously the non implementation of the result it's nothing to do with another vote. 

But obviously it's sets a precident, which we all know would cease to be followed as soon as the remain result that MPs want came through. 

As is proven by the people's vote mob staunchly against another indyref. 

What they really want is a remain result and to never ask the people any questions of any type ever again... Just watch .

318Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 14:00

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Not leaving yesterday was illegal.

319Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 14:08

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Angry Dad wrote:Not leaving yesterday was illegal.

No it wasn't.

320Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 16:13

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

321Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 17:00

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
KP announced in Chatbox that he's going away for six weeks. Now we know why. Very Happy

322Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 17:11

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@boltonbonce wrote:
KP announced in Chatbox that he's going away for six weeks. Now we know why. Very Happy

Laughing

323Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 17:27

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Evil or Very Mad

324Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 17:57

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Are you having a butt lift? Didn't work for Nat.

They started on the wrong end.

325Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 30 2019, 18:12

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Are you having a butt lift? Didn't work for Nat.

They started on the wrong end.

Are you not getting confused with wanderlust?

326Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Mar 31 2019, 17:11

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Don't expect an apology from brexit cheats:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47766407

327Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Mar 31 2019, 19:57

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Remain broke electoral law too. You wouldn't know it considering it's never reported.

328Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Mar 31 2019, 22:35

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
The Electoral Commission fined Vote Leave £61,000 after ruling it exceeded spending limits during the referendum.

The watchdog had said: "Serious offences such as these undermine public confidence in our system."

On the other hand the Electoral Commission has rejected claims that the official Remain campaign breached spending rules in the EU referendum.

Those are the facts.

330Brexit negotiations - Page 11 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Mar 31 2019, 23:10

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
There is a real difference between being fined £1,250 for failing to deliver an accurate spending return and corruptly lying about spending an illegal £675,315 on campaign spending.

Just another example of how the whole brexit campaign was based on lies.

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