OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!!
451 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Wed Aug 21 2019, 16:36
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
452 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Wed Aug 21 2019, 17:44
Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
453 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 11:15
Sluffy
Admin
Bolton. Football Ventures still swinging. Their rivals need to get cracking. Hotel admin expect a result very shortly. Winner of that crucial in club ownership.
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
454 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 11:28
Sluffy
Admin
Buyer. Not bidder. Surprised if not decided later today or tomorrow. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
There is one major rival. But they need to move fast I would suggest. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Keep saying it. Buying something major like a hotel needs a lot of background work and paper work. Legal world never move as fast as you would want. Easy job for admin people. Bid that works comes in properly. Game over. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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455 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 13:06
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
456 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 15:23
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
As they are being flogged off separately, what happens if the hotel is sold to the BooHoo boys, and they don't want the football club, or are they automatic owners of the club?
457 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 15:24
MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
458 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 15:39
bryan458
Tony Kelly
And a couple have scouts on Thursday night!!!!MartinBWFC wrote:To be fair to the admins, they gave the team the day off yesterday as they awaited their exam results
459 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 15:46
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Had a damned good laugh at this. Very good MartinMartinBWFC wrote:To be fair to the admins, they gave the team the day off yesterday as they awaited their exam results
460 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 17:57
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
After input from Baroness Ann Taylor of Bolton and the Football Supporters Association (FSA), a meeting with Debbie Jevans (EFL CE) had been scheduled for tomorrow lunchtime.
Representatives of Forever Bury, Sky Blues Trust, Blackpool Supporters' Trust and Bolton Wanderers Supporters' Trust, along with the FSA, were due to meet Debbie Jevans (EFL Chief Exec) at the EFL HQ in Preston.
However, the meeting has today been cancelled. This is very frustrating and disappointing, particularly with the impending expulsion of Bury FC and the still unresolved take-over at Bolton Wanderers FC.
As a collective, we were looking to make the EFL fully aware of the feelings of supporters and their despair at the lack of intervention from the EFL in the growing numbers of dysfunctional ownership issues. Tomorrow would have been that opportunity.
We now await a rescheduling of the meeting and sincerely hope that it is not too late to save our clubs from further catastrophes.
The clock is ticking for our national game. The EFL need to take note and act now.
461 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 19:15
luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Glos the hotel and football club are two separate companies operating independently of each other. That's why there are two administrators. However both fall under the umbrella of Burnden Leisure. FV has made a bid for Burnden Leisure which would make them owners of ALL the sub companies (eg the hotel) as well as the football club. Boo-hoo appear to have bid ONLY for the hotel. If boo-hoo succeed this means they would NOT own the football club or any of the other ventures. FV have (rightly I think) stated that since the Hotel earns the most revenue and even makes a profit it's integral to future plans for the whole group since they aren't billionaires and will be looking to make the business as a whole self-sustaining.gloswhite wrote:Have I got this right? FV need the hotel as part of the deal, otherwise they don't have enough funds. However, the Boo Hoo (or whatever|) boys only want the hotel ?
As they are being flogged off separately, what happens if the hotel is sold to the BooHoo boys, and they don't want the football club, or are they automatic owners of the club?
462 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 19:46
Sluffy
Admin
Bolton. Sounds like Football Ventures trying to push hotel deal through. Argument over what is best or biggest bid. Been a court hearing today. Waiting on outcome. Rivals bid is more cash up front. Leave that one to the judge ...
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Something to do with legal handling of it. Above my pay grade. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
From what I can make out the hotel Administrator has recommended the Kamani's have the hotel but Michael James/PBP has appealed as head creditor that the Administrator has not acted properly and the decision has gone back to the winders court for the judge to rule on.
Fingers crossed the judge rules in James favour!
463 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 20:02
terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
The clock has been ticking for years.....I have no idea how most small clubs stay in business as it is. Expenses continue to rise but most lower division clubs only have small crowds to pay for it all, with a few exceptions.boltonbonce wrote:Joint Statement
After input from Baroness Ann Taylor of Bolton and the Football Supporters Association (FSA), a meeting with Debbie Jevans (EFL CE) had been scheduled for tomorrow lunchtime.
Representatives of Forever Bury, Sky Blues Trust, Blackpool Supporters' Trust and Bolton Wanderers Supporters' Trust, along with the FSA, were due to meet Debbie Jevans (EFL Chief Exec) at the EFL HQ in Preston.
However, the meeting has today been cancelled. This is very frustrating and disappointing, particularly with the impending expulsion of Bury FC and the still unresolved take-over at Bolton Wanderers FC.
As a collective, we were looking to make the EFL fully aware of the feelings of supporters and their despair at the lack of intervention from the EFL in the growing numbers of dysfunctional ownership issues. Tomorrow would have been that opportunity.
We now await a rescheduling of the meeting and sincerely hope that it is not too late to save our clubs from further catastrophes.
The clock is ticking for our national game. The EFL need to take note and act now.
Like the horse & cart.....sooner or later its gone.
If bury goes out their fans would not become BWFC fans or even consider it even though they are a massive 5 miles away. It's that small town attitude built in for 100 years......just saying.
464 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 22:53
sunlight
Andy Walker
465 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Thu Aug 22 2019, 23:18
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Thanks Peter. As I thought. However, one nagging thought I have, and it seems it is going to be resolved soon, is what if the hotel is sold off to the Kamani's (thanks Sluffy), leaving FV high and dry?luckyPeterpiper wrote:Glos the hotel and football club are two separate companies operating independently of each other. That's why there are two administrators. However both fall under the umbrella of Burnden Leisure. FV has made a bid for Burnden Leisure which would make them owners of ALL the sub companies (eg the hotel) as well as the football club. Boo-hoo appear to have bid ONLY for the hotel. If boo-hoo succeed this means they would NOT own the football club or any of the other ventures. FV have (rightly I think) stated that since the Hotel earns the most revenue and even makes a profit it's integral to future plans for the whole group since they aren't billionaires and will be looking to make the business as a whole self-sustaining.gloswhite wrote:Have I got this right? FV need the hotel as part of the deal, otherwise they don't have enough funds. However, the Boo Hoo (or whatever|) boys only want the hotel ?
As they are being flogged off separately, what happens if the hotel is sold to the BooHoo boys, and they don't want the football club, or are they automatic owners of the club?
466 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Fri Aug 23 2019, 04:04
Sluffy
Admin
gloswhite wrote:Thanks Peter. As I thought. However, one nagging thought I have, and it seems it is going to be resolved soon, is what if the hotel is sold off to the Kamani's (thanks Sluffy), leaving FV high and dry?luckyPeterpiper wrote:Glos the hotel and football club are two separate companies operating independently of each other. That's why there are two administrators. However both fall under the umbrella of Burnden Leisure. FV has made a bid for Burnden Leisure which would make them owners of ALL the sub companies (eg the hotel) as well as the football club. Boo-hoo appear to have bid ONLY for the hotel. If boo-hoo succeed this means they would NOT own the football club or any of the other ventures. FV have (rightly I think) stated that since the Hotel earns the most revenue and even makes a profit it's integral to future plans for the whole group since they aren't billionaires and will be looking to make the business as a whole self-sustaining.gloswhite wrote:Have I got this right? FV need the hotel as part of the deal, otherwise they don't have enough funds. However, the Boo Hoo (or whatever|) boys only want the hotel ?
As they are being flogged off separately, what happens if the hotel is sold to the BooHoo boys, and they don't want the football club, or are they automatic owners of the club?
It's not quite like that Peter.
Club is being bought from Bolton Wanderers Football and Athletic Club Ltd - FV aren't buying Burnden Leisure.
Their plan was/is to buy the stadium as part as the club deal, package it with the hotel and sell it off to fund everything, and lease the stadium and hotel back (the hotel isn't financially capable of funding the club).
The deal is dead though if they can't include the hotel - hence why it is so important that they do.
Anderson knew that and appointed the Administrator for the hotel who it is claimed has worked against the best interests of Prescot Business Park/Michael James (part of the FV consortium remember) in order to prefer and maximise the money for Anderson resulting from a (delayed?) sale and who have seemingly recommended BooHoo (the Kamani's) as successful purchasers for the hotel.
BooHoo seems to have offered less for the hotel than FV BUT money up front whereas FV seems to be payments over a number of years (I can't confirm whether this is true or gossip but it seems likely?).
It seems PBP/James have appealed/complained about Anderson's Administrators actions.
That's how I'm understanding things anyway.
I guess it's bothering me somewhat because I can't sleep and posting this at four in the morning!
I'm going to be very tired tomorrow - well today now!
467 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Fri Aug 23 2019, 09:29
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
468 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Fri Aug 23 2019, 11:13
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Very much so. The ground is leased by the rugby club, who virtually own it, and Coventry are playing second fiddle all the time.Norpig wrote:I don't like the idea of selling off the ground and hotel and leasing it back, look whats happened at Coventry as one example of how it can cause massive problems.
469 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Fri Aug 23 2019, 11:18
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
470 Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! Fri Aug 23 2019, 12:07
Sluffy
Admin
Norpig wrote:I don't like the idea of selling off the ground and hotel and leasing it back, look whats happened at Coventry as one example of how it can cause massive problems.
Needs must.
Sell the family silver or die.
And if you're dead someone will sell off the silver to pay for your burial anyway.
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