For more information, consult the Donald Trump playbook.okocha wrote:Just in the last couple of days the Tories have: made appalling comments about Grenfell victims, slyly doctored a video to produce fake news on Labour, tried to defend a scandal involving the Welsh Secretary.....Even when confronted with facts, Tory spokesmen/women try to deny the truth. (For once in my life I applaud Piers for tearing Tory Party Chairman, James Cleverley, to pieces this morning!)
All the above adds to shameful language, illegal behaviour, lack of diplomacy, undermining of the judiciary, distortion of the truth, uncaring attitudes to suffering etc. etc.
I want to be able to vote for a party with principles and worthy values, not a sly, manipulative set of hoodwinkers. Don't be taken in by their lies.
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121 Re: General Election Sun Nov 10 2019, 13:55
observer
Andy Walker
122 Re: General Election Sun Nov 10 2019, 19:54
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
JC looked very smart at The Cenotaph. The tabloids will be fuming.
123 Re: General Election Sun Nov 10 2019, 20:44
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
I think the tabloids (and The Telegraph) have a lot to answer for in terms of stirring up the enmity and hatred that currently infect our country. Rabid sensationalism, devoid of any fair-mindedness.
Hiding behind their slogan of "protecting the freedom of the Press", they seem to think that privilege entitles them to trample callously on their chosen, often innocent, victims, with no regard for common decency. I'd vote for a party that promised to tackle this problem.
At the moment, I'm struggling to find any party I can support.....
Hiding behind their slogan of "protecting the freedom of the Press", they seem to think that privilege entitles them to trample callously on their chosen, often innocent, victims, with no regard for common decency. I'd vote for a party that promised to tackle this problem.
At the moment, I'm struggling to find any party I can support.....
124 Re: General Election Mon Nov 11 2019, 01:25
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Sunday Times claims 9 major Tory party donors are Russian "businessmen" and are named in the Intelligence and Security report the Government is suppressing until after the election. Here.
Obviously it's all above board. Right.
Obviously it's all above board. Right.
126 Re: General Election Mon Nov 11 2019, 14:11
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Huge boost for Borat.boltonbonce wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50377396
127 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 07:38
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
observer wrote:For more information, consult the Donald Trump playbook.okocha wrote:Just in the last couple of days the Tories have: made appalling comments about Grenfell victims, slyly doctored a video to produce fake news on Labour, tried to defend a scandal involving the Welsh Secretary.....Even when confronted with facts, Tory spokesmen/women try to deny the truth. (For once in my life I applaud Piers for tearing Tory Party Chairman, James Cleverley, to pieces this morning!)
All the above adds to shameful language, illegal behaviour, lack of diplomacy, undermining of the judiciary, distortion of the truth, uncaring attitudes to suffering etc. etc.
I want to be able to vote for a party with principles and worthy values, not a sly, manipulative set of hoodwinkers. Don't be taken in by their lies.
Most of Corbyns rhetoric is lifted straight from trump.
128 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 11:23
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Excellent. Looking forward to punch a drug-dealing rapist Tory week.Hipster_Nebula wrote:observer wrote:For more information, consult the Donald Trump playbook.okocha wrote:Just in the last couple of days the Tories have: made appalling comments about Grenfell victims, slyly doctored a video to produce fake news on Labour, tried to defend a scandal involving the Welsh Secretary.....Even when confronted with facts, Tory spokesmen/women try to deny the truth. (For once in my life I applaud Piers for tearing Tory Party Chairman, James Cleverley, to pieces this morning!)
All the above adds to shameful language, illegal behaviour, lack of diplomacy, undermining of the judiciary, distortion of the truth, uncaring attitudes to suffering etc. etc.
I want to be able to vote for a party with principles and worthy values, not a sly, manipulative set of hoodwinkers. Don't be taken in by their lies.
Most of Corbyns rhetoric is lifted straight from trump.
129 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 14:08
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
wanderlust wrote:Sunday Times claims 9 major Tory party donors are Russian "businessmen" and are named in the Intelligence and Security report the Government is suppressing until after the election. Here.
Obviously it's all above board. Right.
Labour Party successfully sees off cyber hack
- although their online support system for campaigners to print and distribute materials has been taken down.
Identified as coming from Brazil and Russia.
I'm sure Borat Johnsonski knew nothing about it though
130 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 14:12
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
If only there were some sort of review into Russian interference with our democratic processes. Surely Boris wouldn't be so dishonest as to suppress it until after the election.
131 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 14:20
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
And talking of suppressing embarrassing news for the Tories why did the BBC show old footage of Boris at the Cenotaph rather than showing people what an idiot he is by making not one but two gaffes at the wreath laying ceremony?
132 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 15:42
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
If the Russian interference investigation proved damaging to Labour, the Tories would have published it like a shot, for political gain.
If it proved neutral, they would have published it, to show that their hands were clean.
The only conclusion that can be drawn from the "delay" is...........blindingly obvious!!!
If it proved neutral, they would have published it, to show that their hands were clean.
The only conclusion that can be drawn from the "delay" is...........blindingly obvious!!!
133 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 16:36
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Labour hamming up a simple ddos attack that likely came from a bedroom and was not "sophisticated"
Their mps have spent all day spreading fake news about foreign interference.
Their mps have spent all day spreading fake news about foreign interference.
134 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 21:01
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Hipster_Nebula wrote:
Their mps have spent all day spreading fake news about foreign interference.
If only there were some sort of review into Russian interference with our democratic processes we could clear this all up. So who is suppressing this report?
135 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 21:10
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
According to the cyber experts opinions on the TV, the DDOS indicated both Russia and Brazil, but could quite as easily come from someones bedroom in the UK. DDOS software can be bought on line it seems.xmiles wrote:Hipster_Nebula wrote:
Their mps have spent all day spreading fake news about foreign interference.
If only there were some sort of review into Russian interference with our democratic processes we could clear this all up. So who is suppressing this report?
Needless to say, and I've used the term before, paranoia is striking almost everywhere, but especially with the Remain parties and its followers.
136 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 22:09
Guest
Guest
Meanwhile the Tories resort to open lies about Labour spending. Don’t have much hope when this sort of nonsense is given air time.
137 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 22:15
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:According to the cyber experts opinions on the TV, the DDOS indicated both Russia and Brazil, but could quite as easily come from someones bedroom in the UK. DDOS software can be bought on line it seems.xmiles wrote:Hipster_Nebula wrote:
Their mps have spent all day spreading fake news about foreign interference.
If only there were some sort of review into Russian interference with our democratic processes we could clear this all up. So who is suppressing this report?
Needless to say, and I've used the term before, paranoia is striking almost everywhere, but especially with the Remain parties and its followers.
It is not paranoia to ask why a report into Russian subversion of our electoral process has been suppressed by Boris.
138 Re: General Election Tue Nov 12 2019, 22:19
Guest
Guest
As always, blind to the real issue - everything is twisted because Boris is ‘on side’.
The government is suppressing a report of national significance, excusing that is pathetic.
The government is suppressing a report of national significance, excusing that is pathetic.
140 Re: General Election Wed Nov 13 2019, 22:15
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
I didn't excuse it. Stop making things up.T.R.O.Y wrote:As always, blind to the real issue - everything is twisted because Boris is ‘on side’.
The government is suppressing a report of national significance, excusing that is pathetic.
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