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1European Politics Empty European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 09:44

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

For those who are interested in European politics it is the Dutch General Election, yet again, tomorrow. Why mention it here, well just to try to balance to show that its not just the UK who are annoyed with the EU and its antics and that not all mainlanders are pro-EU. A non-Daily Mail point of view!!!



The previous coalition government collapsed earlier this year when the PVV (Geert Wilders) decided to take a stance and not agree with the austerity plans and as such withdrew its support from the minority government.



The PVV is standing up against too much immigration from non-EU countries and even from Eastern European Countries that are part of the EU, and they are against "Islamisation" - aka Sharia Law. But this time round they are also wanting to get out of the European Union and also bring back the Guilder.



The Dutch Labour and Conservative parties are more concerned with no longer giving more aid to Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and Italy. They are also wanting to make EU work for them instead of Holland working for the EU and to make Europe a better place to work and live - but they also want to introduce austerity measures which, although nowhere near as far reaching as UK, will hinder the more poorer people of the country into getting back into work. Either way from 1st October the VAT goes up from 19% to 21% - and that could have a factor as to how peoplevote.



So who will win, who will improve or even lose voters. The Dutch elections are always good to watch and normally end up with some form of coalition government. After the last elections it took 127 days to create a Government! Whereas the Dutch record for creating agovernment has taken 208 days!!!



More information attached

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19488679 - Q&A over Dutch politics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19552784 - Dutch show growing annoyance with EU



From a personal point of view I just hope that the BBC are back in Almere, like they were during the last elections as Almere posted the highest percentage of voters who voted for Wilders (PVV)

2European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 10:12

Reebok_Rebel

Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

bwfc71 wrote:
The PVV is standing up against too much immigration from non-EU countries and even from Eastern European Countries that are part of the EU, and they are against "Islamisation" - aka Sharia Law. But this time round they are also wanting to get out of the European Union.

RACIST, right-wing BASTARDS!!! Suspect

3European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 10:44

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Whatever happened to the old EU motto of ' We're in this together' ????

4European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 12:38

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Reebok_Rebel wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
The PVV is standing up against too much immigration from non-EU countries and even from Eastern European Countries that are part of the EU, and they are against "Islamisation" - aka Sharia Law. But this time round they are also wanting to get out of the European Union.

RACIST, right-wing BASTARDS!!! Suspect



To be fair they have never been racist about it - but uphold what the majority of people think - just like in UK where majority are against too much immigration and how we seem to appease certain minorities far too easily (ok I mean capitulate!). Geert Wilders has done the more sensible thing by question certain law changes or certain values that have changed in the Dutch society - in other words he has got people to talk about it openly rather than shyly behind closed doors - he was even proved innocent after he had been taken to court over racial conurtations.

Don't get me wrong he is not my cup of tea, but he has brought out into the open how we seem to appease certain minorities and forget about the majority - something that should happen in the UK

5European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 12:39

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Reebok Trotter wrote:Whatever happened to the old EU motto of ' We're in this together' ????



I think it was both the Germans and French that wanted that!

6European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 13:36

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I hope Gert Wilders has some solid bodyguards. We all know what happened to Pym Fortuyn.

7European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Tue Sep 11 2012, 16:07

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

I think we should stay in the EU but there does seem to be a major problem. The northern members are basically subsidising the southern members.

8European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Thu Sep 13 2012, 16:39

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Well its going to be yet another coalition in the 2nd Chamber!



But this is going to be difficult to call as to what will be done or not.

The party with the most seats supports Pro-Europe, as in Holland should work for Europe, and their austerity measures are deep and will probably hurt not only the poor but the vast majority of the population whilst they support the French in tackling the the Euro-wide financial problem.



Whereas the Labour Party, which came second - thats a party that belives that Europe should work for Holland and not vice versa, their austerity measures basically aimed at the richer part of society and businesses whilst their belief in the euro-wide financial crisis follows that of Germany!



Two varying views with regards to austerity and Europe but plenty of common views when it comes to internal matters. At least Geert Wilders' Freedom party lost 9 seats.!



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19566165

9European Politics Empty Re: European Politics Thu Sep 13 2012, 20:07

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

bwfc71 wrote: At least Geert Wilders' Freedom party lost 9 seats.!


Freedom my arse. Geert would be in a cell somewhere making rucksacks if he lived in the Yemen.

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