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871How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Aug 26 2020, 21:46

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
As usual it is never the fault of Tory politicians.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53923279

872How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Aug 26 2020, 21:55

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:As usual it is never the fault of Tory politicians.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53923279

Oh come on, surely you've had a mutant algorithm mess up your plans from time to time?

873How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Aug 27 2020, 09:27

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
An important question XM, is, how can Tory politicians be at fault with anything, when they obviously don't make any decisions.  Very Happy

874How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Aug 27 2020, 09:51

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
An interesting point glos, which leads to the question: what do they do?

875How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Aug 27 2020, 10:36

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Well, they're very good at some things: cronyism, hiding, sacking, ignoring, denying, blaming. I'm not liking the way things are heading in their war against the BBC because their rhetoric seems to be influencing swathes of the public. They're aiming for total control....

876How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Aug 27 2020, 10:42

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think what Okocha says about the BBC is right, i've noticed that the BBC is now being classed as a left wing organisation on social media and not to be trusted. 
This is from the kind of people who think that the likes of Tommy Robinson and that hag Katie Hopkins are hero's so i take it with a massive pinch of salt.

877How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Thu Aug 27 2020, 13:43

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Germany drops Brexit talks from EU envoys meeting next week due to lack of progress in a "wasted summer"  as we roll on inexorably towards a no deal fiasco. Metro goes with "Boris doesn't understand how negotiations work" - harsh but probably true of the half of the UK population.

Meanwhile net migration to the UK hits the highest peak since the referendum which can't go down well with Boris's core support.

878How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 10:58

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@wanderlust wrote:Meanwhile net migration to the UK hits the highest peak since the referendum which can't go down well with Boris's core support.
Very Happy

879How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 11:02

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Wait till all the Hong Kong people who can get a passport start to come over, the gammon's will have a melt down.

880How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 12:58

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Just who are these 'Gammons' ?

881How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 13:02

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

882How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 13:04

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
i wish this was a real magazine  Laughing

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883How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 13:48

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Thank you Mr. Pig.  I think its a silly name to use, and am surprised at how supposedly intelligent people actually get involved in deep and meaningful discussions about it. 
It just goes to show, that after 3 years of intense insults, etc, this is all the Left could come up with. No wonder they lost the argument.  :whistle: :bomb:
:biggrin:

884How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 13:54

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I've been called a loony lefty and a snowflake on many occasions on facebook, i wear it like a badge of honour  Very Happy

885How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 14:00

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Poor Mrs Pig, and the piglets. They've got a self-confessed loony snowflake for a husband/dad. However, they can see your sensible and charismatic side knowing you post on this forum  Very Happy

886How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 15:30

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@gloswhite wrote:
Thank you Mr. Pig.  I think its a silly name to use, and am surprised at how supposedly intelligent people actually get involved in deep and meaningful discussions about it. 
It just goes to show, that after 3 years of intense insults, etc, this is all the Left could come up with. No wonder they lost the argument.  :whistle: :bomb:
:biggrin:
Glos, I think you'll prefer this much more humorous definition of Gammon:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon

887How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 15:42

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:
Glos, I think you'll prefer this much more humorous definition of Gammon:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon
:rofl:

888How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 15:46

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@okocha wrote:
Glos, I think you'll prefer this much more humorous definition of Gammon:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon

Pretty good definition of brexit voters too.

889How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Fri Aug 28 2020, 17:40

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I thought that was both true and some of it reasonably factual, eg

Spitting out talking points found in fascist organs like the Daily Mail (or, for those preferring something less intellectual, the Daily Express), gammon  exist in a state of perpetual outrage and exasperated "I'm just an [url=https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ordinary bloke]ordinary bloke[/url], me" confusion.


I thought this bit applied more to the Remainers than the Leavers.  (It's nothing personal XM) Very Happy

890How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 07:55

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

891How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 10:17

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Ha ha, absolutely laughable that people want a set of Covid rules set in stone.

This is a new pandemic. No one has been through it before. Yet if the government had published a set of rules in March and had stuck to them for 6 months people would be going bonkers, saying they need to be more flexible.

892How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 11:34

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Unfortunately, we are now a society that spends most free time sat on PC's, laptops, etc, and once on them, we find we have a lot of time to do very little. As a result they complain, whinge, and throw their comments about as though they really do have a say in whatever they are commenting on. Frustration soon sets in when they realise that they, and their comments, are such a small cog in life's works that they can do nothing but lash out. We really have become a nation, no doubt along with many others of a deeply frustrated and unhappy people. Makes me wonder if the social media in its current set-up and management, which everyone defends, is ultimately beneficial to us all.

893How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 11:42

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@gloswhite wrote:Unfortunately, we are now a society that spends most free time sat on PC's, laptops, etc, and once on them, we find we have a lot of time to do very little. As a result they complain, whinge, and throw their comments about as though they really do have a say in whatever they are commenting on. Frustration soon sets in when they realise that they, and their comments, are such a small cog in life's works that they can do nothing but lash out. We really have become a nation, no doubt along with many others of a deeply frustrated and unhappy people. Makes me wonder if the social media in its current set-up and management, which everyone defends, is ultimately beneficial to us all.
It's all a complete waste of time. Can you imagine a Sluffy tweet? He'd run out of characters before he'd even got going. Very Happy

894How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 11:53

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
@boltonbonce wrote:
It's all a complete waste of time. Can you imagine a Sluffy tweet? He'd run out of characters before he'd even got going. Very Happy
Probably have his account locked  Very Happy  I don't have a Twitter account. I can't be arsed being harangued on more than one platform.  Very Happy

895How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 11:56

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Greed and arrogance ( the ego ) has been growing over the last few decades. There are so many common, run of the mill people whom think they are somebody, and they will not even give you your own right of way on a road, but rather pull out on you and infringe upon you rather than wait 5 seconds and let you pass.
The ego doesnt like to live in the present moment. It lives in the future and past. To the ego, the actual present moment hardly exists. So many people, now, are almost incapable of recognising the present moment.
Indeed, as someone posted about people being unhappy, it is ironic that as they strive for material gains and to earn more money and more holidays, that their happiness decreses proportionally.

896How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 12:33

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:Ha ha, absolutely laughable that people want a set of Covid rules set in stone.

This is a new pandemic. No one has been through it before. Yet if the government had published a set of rules in March and had stuck to them for 6 months people would be going bonkers, saying they need to be more flexible.


So true Nat.

897How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 15:46

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think that the fact that it is a new pandemic and we have no experience of it is all the more reason why we should have had a clear and moreover enforceable set of laws from the get go. 
Sure some folk would whinge but at least there wouldn't have been anywhere the number of deaths we've had to endure so f*** 'em or at least bang 'em up for attempted murder or whatever intentionally spreading the disease is seen as.
I recall folk have been banged up for intentionally spreading AIDS so I fail to see how killing your granny is any different. 
They wouldn't whinge so much if disobeying the rules was widely perceived as murder.
Unfortunately the Government prevaricated so much at the outset that in the absence of enforceable laws, disobeying the "guidelines" are now seen as an infringement of personal freedoms by some dickheads who don't care if the vulnerable live or die.

898How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 16:31

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@wanderlust wrote:I think that the fact that it is a new pandemic and we have no experience of it is all the more reason why we should have had a clear and moreover enforceable set of laws from the get go. 
Sure some folk would whinge but at least there wouldn't have been anywhere the number of deaths we've had to endure so f*** 'em or at least bang 'em up for attempted murder or whatever intentionally spreading the disease is seen as.
I recall folk have been banged up for intentionally spreading AIDS so I fail to see how killing your granny is any different. 
They wouldn't whinge so much if disobeying the rules was widely perceived as murder.
Unfortunately the Government prevaricated so much at the outset that in the absence of enforceable laws, disobeying the "guidelines" are now seen as an infringement of personal freedoms by some dickheads who don't care if the vulnerable live or die.

Don't know how it's like in Norfolk but in the real world people simply would not tolerate that, there would be mass demonstrations and civil disobedience - see Germany/Berlin yesterday and they are a country that normally follows the rules!

It's happening all over, Spain, Australia even in NZ someone took the government to court for going into lockdown too early (breaching their powers to do so) and won - and that saved countless lives.

Unless you want a China system where anything said about the government is imprisonable you will get people fighting for their perceived civil liberties.

You also have to have a government responsive to change to developments - you can't having things written in stone at the outset - you simply don't know enough at that time about how the virus works.

Even now if people simply washed their hands, social distance and wear masks and stick to their own bubbles, then that would be enough to beat the virus - trouble is many, even most simply don't.

You can't arrest half the population and throw them in jail can you?

The bottom line is that we have government by consent, we are not a police state.

Most under 70 years of age with no underlying health condition will not die and probably the vast majority won't even know they've had the virus.

You simply can't expect people to stop their lives and the government to ruin the economy for decades to come just to save us old farts.

It's us old farts who are the ones to live our lives as the new normal, as no one else will!

I've told my daughter to be sensible and to go out an enjoy her life but when she wants to see or spend time with me to in effect self isolate herself from her social life for ten days or so before we meet up and when we have it has been out in the fresh air or in well ventilated restaurants at off peak times, etc, that's how my life will continue for the foreseeable future.

I don't expect the whole country to stop for me, and neither am I incensed with the government for not making them do so either.

It's simply both unrealistic and unobtainable.

Fwiw North Norfolk is all but the safest part of the country to live in, yesterday it was ranked as 308th out of 315 in terms of new case average in the last seven days (your mates in Suffolk though can even beat that with Ipswich in 310th (and equal bottom) with zero - so I don't know what you're even bitching about!

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Windsor is rated 36th with an average of 22.5 per 100,000 population - if it was a country, the government would have banned all travel to it and instructed people to self isolate from visiting it for 14 days because the threshold to trigger such measures is set at 20.0 per 100k.

And I'm not bitching like a squealing pig.

It's how life is now, so get on with it.

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899How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Aug 30 2020, 18:43

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

900How is the Tory government doing? - Page 30 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Aug 31 2020, 13:37

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I'm beginning to think the same way as this guy, (but only 90%)  Very Happy

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