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T.R.O.Y. wrote:I’m not one to defend Tony Blair, but he seems to quite clearly disprove your point aside from Iraq - as does Cameron up until Brexit.
Don’t mean to be dismissive but I’m struggling to see what your point is here Sluffy?
Blair disproves my point does he?
Even his own biographer wrote about his unpopularity and his eye to make himself wealthy!
The fact remains though that almost a decade after leaving Number 10, Mr Blair's public standing is even lower.
The lack of palpable progress in the Middle East, in Africa, and in world religions, does not of itself explain the hostility.
Rather, it has been his contacts with regimes and individuals of questionable morality, and his money-making activities and his homes, all of which have been regularly aired by a profoundly suspicious press, that seem to have caused the damage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33849764
Do you think he had no idea of what his wife was up to?
In 2002, Blair purchased two flats in Bristol with the assistance, it was alleged but later denied, of Peter Foster, a convicted Australian conman and boyfriend of Blair's friend Carole Caplin, who negotiated a discount for Blair. Blair publicly apologised for her embarrassing connection to Foster, stating "I did not think it was my business to choose my friends' friends"
In summer 2015, in the wake of the Hillary Clinton email controversy, Blair was revealed by The Guardian to have lobbied Clinton in 2009 on behalf of prominent members of the Qatari monarchy; Clinton was US Secretary of State at the time. In a letter to the newspaper, Blair denied this characterisation of her mediation efforts, describing their story as "sensationalist and inaccurate". Precisely two months later, the release of another batch of Clinton's private emails confirmed that Blair had, indeed, arranged meetings with Clinton for the Qataris outside normal diplomatic channels, with discussions to involve "the US/Qatar relationship generally", not merely joint philanthropic efforts. In one case, Blair herself stated that her purpose was to help the eldest of Sheikha Mosah's sons, Jasim bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, "build up an international profile"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherie_Blair#Controversies
Ok it wasn't him directly but it does question his integrity imo.
Point is as I keep saying politics is just a game - we all do it of a fashion - we just don't all see it for what it is.
Politics
/ˈpɒlɪtɪks/
noun
2 - activities aimed at improving someone's status or increasing power within an organization.
"yet another discussion of office politics and personalities"
I would also argue we do it in our home life too, to get our little ways, or to prevent others getting theirs.
We learn how to use and manipulate to get our way when we are children, if mum says yes and dad says no, how many of us would get mum to intervene on our behalf - all of us would and probably have.
It's just how we steer our way through life, to survive and hopefully achieve what we want.
If that's not just all a glorified game then what is?
