Both versions are excellent, and I can just imagine him actually saying things along those lines, whatever the subject.
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244 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Tue Sep 01 2020, 08:25
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
I think the Russians or Trump have stepped up their campaign - the Public Enemy and Chuck D facebook pages have been inundated with lots of pro-Trump messages.
Chuck won't be pleased, as you can see below he isn't a fan
Chuck won't be pleased, as you can see below he isn't a fan
245 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Wed Sep 02 2020, 13:16
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Soup!! And he's trying to portray Biden as senile.
247 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Wed Sep 09 2020, 17:51
Sluffy
Admin
I thought this was an interesting interview -
249 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Wed Sep 16 2020, 12:32
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
I’m struggling to understand how Trump thinks he has a case against John Bolton.
He’s launched a criminal case against the whistleblower on the basis of giving away state secrets but as the article mentions, Bolton’s book consists of unverifiable reports of conversations he was involved in or overheard.
In essence the book is a “what I heard” book ie its up to the reader to decide whether or not to believe the author.
Trump of course denies the statements as being untrue.
So if the book is a report of “what Bolton heard” and Trump himself says they’re not true, how can that possibly be construed as giving away state secrets?
Expressing a personal view of what was said isn’t a crime and if what he said isn’t true they can’t be state secrets anyway.
Or am I missing something?
He’s launched a criminal case against the whistleblower on the basis of giving away state secrets but as the article mentions, Bolton’s book consists of unverifiable reports of conversations he was involved in or overheard.
In essence the book is a “what I heard” book ie its up to the reader to decide whether or not to believe the author.
Trump of course denies the statements as being untrue.
So if the book is a report of “what Bolton heard” and Trump himself says they’re not true, how can that possibly be construed as giving away state secrets?
Expressing a personal view of what was said isn’t a crime and if what he said isn’t true they can’t be state secrets anyway.
Or am I missing something?
250 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Wed Sep 16 2020, 12:36
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
He's actually adding credence to the comments, but he's too dense to see that.
251 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Wed Sep 16 2020, 13:18
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Here’s a thought - maybe he doesn’t care if he has a case or not?gloswhite wrote:He's actually adding credence to the comments, but he's too dense to see that.
If he’s using the Monbiot strategy, if he wins he is vindicated and if he loses he will simply claim the judge is biased which will be lapped up by his supporters and will clear the way for him to replace officials with more yes men - just as Cummings is systematically doing with the British civil service and Putin has done in Russia and other authoritarian governments have done.
Just tactics.
253 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Thu Sep 17 2020, 20:10
observer
Andy Walker
It's the Joseph Goebbels and Roy Cohn strategy for politicians and dictators.wanderlust wrote:
Here’s a thought - maybe he doesn’t care if he has a case or not?
If he’s using the Monbiot strategy, if he wins he is vindicated and if he loses he will simply claim the judge is biased which will be lapped up by his supporters and will clear the way for him to replace officials with more yes men - just as Cummings is systematically doing with the British civil service and Putin has done in Russia and other authoritarian governments have done.
Just tactics.
254 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Fri Sep 18 2020, 14:02
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Shoot me.
255 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Fri Sep 18 2020, 15:05
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
Oh my God, Bonce! Does the UK have the same degree of ghastliness in its ranks? Please say not.....
256 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Fri Sep 18 2020, 16:17
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
I'm still trying to pick my jaw up.okocha wrote:Oh my God, Bonce! Does the UK have the same degree of ghastliness in its ranks? Please say not.....
257 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Fri Sep 18 2020, 17:09
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
...and to think we thought the average leaver lemming was thick-skinned and gullible. These people totally explain how Trump was elected and may well get a second term.boltonbonce wrote:
I'm still trying to pick my jaw up.
259 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Thu Sep 24 2020, 08:19
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Getting his excuses in early and threatening not to hand over power peacefully if he loses, what a guy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54274115
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54274115
260 Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA Thu Sep 24 2020, 09:48
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
He seems to be on the road where he is deliberately causing civil unrest so that he can return to quell it, and become America's great saviour. He's currently sitting back and watching it all foment, (never used that word before). It's like a script from a very poor B movie.
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