That's not what I said, as you well you know. Its all part of the overall presentation. The idea is to get your argument/position across in the most effective way. We've all had to do presentations where the most important point is to tailor your delivery to the audience you have. We all do it in life, depending on who, where, when , and how we need to.@wanderlust wrote:So PR and image is the b-all and end-all of politics?@gloswhite wrote:Whats this bollocks about Wander?@wanderlust wrote:Not sure what "character" has to do with it given that the only thing that matters is what she has to say.@gloswhite wrote:
I'm always surprised to hear how well she puts across her points, but she always seems characterless to me.
Surely you're capable of assessing the validity of her argument without needing her to be a "character" to sell it to you?
If a tramp on the street told you you're about to be run over by an oncoming bus, would you be overly concerned with his personal hygiene or would you just get off the road and ask questions later?
Her character would be important to many people, especially youngsters who would be able to relate to her if she was able to show more enthusiasm, rather than just delivering a statement, no matter how effective it is. I think she sometimes comes across as a bit 'cold'.
We all know how much it means to her, but it doesn't always come across visually.
As for the tramp, I wouldn't give a hoot about his personal hygiene, and would probably give his dog part of my sausage roll, buy an out-of-date copy of the Big Issue, and then climb on the said bus. (Tramps, hygiene, buses, whats going on here?)
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Mon Feb 03 2020, 10:15
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Mon Feb 03 2020, 10:17
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

Another point, how many have referred to Boris's optimistic nature, which helped to sway them, especially from Labour 'strongholds'.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Thu Feb 06 2020, 21:42
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

For a kid of her age and limited experience, I think she gets her message across very effectively to her target audience. Unfortunately that target audience is the converted.@gloswhite wrote:That's not what I said, as you well you know. Its all part of the overall presentation. The idea is to get your argument/position across in the most effective way. We've all had to do presentations where the most important point is to tailor your delivery to the audience you have. We all do it in life, depending on who, where, when , and how we need to.@wanderlust wrote:So PR and image is the b-all and end-all of politics?@gloswhite wrote:Whats this bollocks about Wander?@wanderlust wrote:Not sure what "character" has to do with it given that the only thing that matters is what she has to say.@gloswhite wrote:
I'm always surprised to hear how well she puts across her points, but she always seems characterless to me.
Surely you're capable of assessing the validity of her argument without needing her to be a "character" to sell it to you?
If a tramp on the street told you you're about to be run over by an oncoming bus, would you be overly concerned with his personal hygiene or would you just get off the road and ask questions later?
Her character would be important to many people, especially youngsters who would be able to relate to her if she was able to show more enthusiasm, rather than just delivering a statement, no matter how effective it is. I think she sometimes comes across as a bit 'cold'.
We all know how much it means to her, but it doesn't always come across visually.
As for the tramp, I wouldn't give a hoot about his personal hygiene, and would probably give his dog part of my sausage roll, buy an out-of-date copy of the Big Issue, and then climb on the said bus. (Tramps, hygiene, buses, whats going on here?)
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Thu Feb 06 2020, 21:44
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Any thoughts on Trump getting the expected acquittal based on party line voting, then crowing about it being a witch hunt and nobody pointing out that his party vetoed the evidence?
Seriously I wonder about who is driving Democrat strategy because they haven't got a f****** clue.
Seriously I wonder about who is driving Democrat strategy because they haven't got a f****** clue.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Feb 07 2020, 02:26
finlaymcdanger

El Hadji Diouf

He’ll get his comeuppance one day
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Feb 07 2020, 11:08
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

He's turned into an even more arrogant bastard than he was before. You're right about the Democrats though, they don't seem to know their arse from their elbows at the moment. Hopefully, things will change before November.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Feb 07 2020, 12:32
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

If they put a divisive character like Bernie up, they'll be making the same error Labour did with Corbyn - policies before personalities - which doesn't work in this f***** up ignorant world.@gloswhite wrote:He's turned into an even more arrogant bastard than he was before. You're right about the Democrats though, they don't seem to know their arse from their elbows at the moment. Hopefully, things will change before November.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Mon Mar 02 2020, 01:04
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Buttigieg drops out of the race for the Democratic nomination so it's looking increasingly like Bernie will get the gig ahead of Biden - typifying the worldwide sweeping trend towards populism and divisive politics with voters getting dragged to the poles in the polls and abandoning centrist politics.@wanderlust wrote:If they put a divisive character like Bernie up, they'll be making the same error Labour did with Corbyn - policies before personalities - which doesn't work in this f***** up ignorant world.@gloswhite wrote:He's turned into an even more arrogant bastard than he was before. You're right about the Democrats though, they don't seem to know their arse from their elbows at the moment. Hopefully, things will change before November.
Difficult to see how it will pan out in the presidential election given the weird way in which Americans choose their president. Last time out Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump - but still "lost", so no predictions from me.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Mon Mar 02 2020, 08:13
boltonbonce

Nat Lofthouse

Not sure what they're scared of.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Mar 10 2020, 16:19
terenceanne

El Hadji Diouf

Any chance good old Bill is slightly on the Left@boltonbonce wrote:Not sure what they're scared of.

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Thu Mar 26 2020, 02:33
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Trump v Biden - dementia wars.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Mar 27 2020, 02:01
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

3 million Americans redundant and making new claims for unemployment benefit in a week.
Trump needs to get real and quick.
And so does Cummings.
Trump needs to get real and quick.
And so does Cummings.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Mar 27 2020, 09:55
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

He's on the slippery slope, but at the moment we don't know if he's folding under the pressure or is genuinely ill. Time will tell.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Mar 27 2020, 11:14
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Problem is that he has his finger on the trigger and I find it unnerving that someone with his issues is anywhere near that kind of power.@gloswhite wrote:He's on the slippery slope, but at the moment we don't know if he's folding under the pressure or is genuinely ill. Time will tell.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri Mar 27 2020, 16:33
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

I agree, but I'm sure the military would call a halt to any ill thought out shenanigans from him in that respect.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Mar 28 2020, 15:21
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

@gloswhite wrote:I agree, but I'm sure the military would call a halt to any ill thought out shenanigans from him in that respect.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Wed Apr 29 2020, 09:39
boltonbonce

Nat Lofthouse

Did you see the UFO film released by the Pentagon? If they land, and ask 'Take us to your leader' they won't be able to fly home for laughing.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat May 16 2020, 18:33
xmiles

Jay Jay Okocha

Trump fires yet another official who dares to investigate the corruption of his friends and allies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52688658
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52688658
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat May 16 2020, 18:39
observer
Andy Walker

Bozo is the head of a crime family ala The Borgias!@xmiles wrote:Trump fires yet another official who dares to investigate the corruption of his friends and allies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52688658
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 08:28
Norpig

Nat Lofthouse

Trump has clearly lost the plot during the George Floyd protests, sending in the National Guard and using the police to clear the street so he could have a photo taken outside a church holding a bible 

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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 09:37
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

Well, at least one good thing will come out of this terrible situation, (although nothing is certain in America nowadays), and that is that by failing to get a grip of the virus, and now these riots, he'll not make a second term.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 11:49
observer
Andy Walker

You assume Bozo will allow us to vote or have his personal lawyer (also known as the Attorney General) void the vote, or have the Supreme Court overturn the vote or close the postal service so we have no mail-in ballots... and this goes on.@gloswhite wrote:Well, at least one good thing will come out of this terrible situation, (although nothing is certain in America nowadays), and that is that by failing to get a grip of the virus, and now these riots, he'll not make a second term.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 19:29
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

Scary isn't it? He's doing his damnedest to turn the States into a Third World Country.
Looking at political solutions of the past, I'm surprised nobody has tried to take a pot shot at him.
Looking at political solutions of the past, I'm surprised nobody has tried to take a pot shot at him.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 22:12
xmiles

Jay Jay Okocha

It tends to be left wing politicians that are assassinated not right wing ones.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 02 2020, 22:34
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

True, but this is a unique situation, and I don't think the usual rules apply.
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Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Thu Jun 04 2020, 11:40
Norpig

Nat Lofthouse

One of my favourite musicians released this as a single recently, as you can tell he's no fan of Donald 

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