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N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell

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1N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 18:17

doffcocker

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Satisfying as N'Gog has been as a lone striker, he lacks that bit of quality that could be the difference between us staying up and going down. He does a job, but you have to not expect any real class from him to avoid disappointment.

Though possibly not used to playing up front alone, Tuncay has match-changing quality. And it's hard to speak for Sordell, but he certainly has pace and a bit of trickery.

Is it worth resting N'Gog and experimenting?

2N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 18:21

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

You know my opinion on this - Klasnic all the way.

3N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 18:46

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm a fan of N'gog, i like what (little) i've seen of Sordell too.

shame we can't play 4-4-2.

4N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 18:52

Sluffy

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Just for the record - his name is spelt Ngog without the apostrophe.

5N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 20:14

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

He's saying you're stupid Hipster.

6N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 20:18

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm not too bothered.

I'll just pretend i copied the title.

7N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 20:20

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I'm not too bothered.

I'll just pretend i copied the title.

The 'i' should be a capital letter.

8N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 20:47

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:I'm not too bothered.

I'll just pretend i copied the title.

The 'i' should be a capital letter.

It only hurts when it Sluffy picks up on my grammar.

When it's coming from the 19 stone muumuu wearer i saw at Chelsea it means nothing.

9N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 20:58

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Sorry didn't mean to offend anyone - it was just a general comment as quite a few people spell his name with the apostrophe.

I'm the class dunce when it comes to spelling so I don't have a pop at anyone about theirs - people who live in glass houses and all that.

Fwiw I wasn't overjoyed when we got Ngog but the bit I've seen of him via streams he looks ok. Quite impressed with the couple of goals he scored recently. Only 22. Could be a lot worse.

Tuncay is the one I feel sorry for - very good player at Boro - don't know how he's ended up with us stuck out on the right wing?

Sordell unknown quality to me.

10N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 21:28

largehat

largehat
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

If Ngog scored a few more goals he would be doing a fantastic job.

If he can chip in 5 goals in the remaining 11 games, that will give us a chance.

Hard to make a case for Klasnic at the front of a 4-5-1, he's not got the same close control or ability to hold up the ball with his back to goal that Ngog as, or his pace.

Sordell is an unknown quantity.

11N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 21:33

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Il Padrino wrote:If Ngog scored a few more goals he would be doing a fantastic job.

If he can chip in 5 goals in the remaining 11 games, that will give us a chance.

Hard to make a case for Klasnic at the front of a 4-5-1, he's not got the same close control or ability to hold up the ball with his back to goal that Ngog as, or his pace.

Sordell is an unknown quantity.

Klasnic scores goals. We've scored more goals when he's played than when Ngog has played.

I accept he's not much cop in a 4-5-1 formation, but I can't stand the fact we keep our leading scorer on the bench.

12N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 21:40

largehat

largehat
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

I would agree it makes no sense to bench Klasnic for the rest of the season, but it does seem like 4-5-1 is the way forward for now and I don't see how to accommodate him other than as an impact sub if we need a goal in the last 15 minutes. Give me Klasnic over K Davies any day of the week.

13N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 21:56

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Klasnic is a lazy git, who wstes what skill he has, and we can't afford to gamble on him being a regular. Even when we use him as a 'grabbing at straws' sub, he's too idle to move up and with with the rest of the team, and lets be honest, that doesn't happen often !

14N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:01

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gloswhite wrote:Klasnic is a lazy git, who wstes what skill he has, and we can't afford to gamble on him being a regular. Even when we use him as a 'grabbing at straws' sub, he's too idle to move up and with with the rest of the team, and lets be honest, that doesn't happen often !

I disagree with this, I don't think he's the most mobile of players but he's one of those players who likes to stay near the goal in case a half chance comes along.

No one ever called Gary Lineker lazy and, by his own admission, he never chased anything outside the penalty area in his whole career.

15N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:09

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

I agree, but goal hangers, or good old-fashioned poachers were the finishing touch, were tolerated , and built on, because they were consistent. Klasnic isn't. Not because he hasn't got the skill, but becasue IMO, he's a lazy git. This isn't happening with Klasnic, because he drifts in and out of a game too much. I genuinely think he's lost his way, and appetite, for the game.

16N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:13

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gloswhite wrote:I agree, but goal hangers, or good old-fashioned poachers were the finishing touch, were tolerated , and built on, because they were consistent. Klasnic isn't. Not because he hasn't got the skill, but becasue IMO, he's a lazy git. This isn't happening with Klasnic, because he drifts in and out of a game too much. I genuinely think he's lost his way, and appetite, for the game.

You're probably right, but there's no getting away from the fact that Klasnic played in some of our best results: QPR away, Stoke at home, Blackburn away.

17N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:18

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Absolutely agree, which makes it even more annoying when he does his disappearing act. What I would like to see, especially with our inability to score, is to put him on and actually play to him, and not just lump it up the park, hoping he'll be running on to it, because it aint gonna happen.

18N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:22

doffcocker

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

The thing about the QPR and Stoke games is for some reason, Klasnic had decided he was gonna put a shift in. On both occasions I dropped when I heard his name on the teamsheet. But he actually did some running and it paid off - we scored goals for fun and kept a clean sheet.

19N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:26

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

He's a luxury player, the kind of player who would be superb at a club with top quality MF's and CB's who are water tight.

A proper club like Everton, Newcastle even Villa would have him scoring 12-15 goals a season minimum.

Like the guy, but we can't afford him in our team. And no i don't mean we can't afford to have goals before some chump offers that nugget.

20N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Empty Re: N'Gog, Tuncay, Sordell Mon Feb 27 2012, 23:02

aaron_bwfc

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It's a sad state of affairs when we can't even play 2 strikers up front anymore without knowing we are going to get beat by teams like fucking Wigan.

As for who should start up front, until we cut the long ball out it doesn't really matter as all of our strikers are inaffective when playing that style of football, even davies has lost his nack of winning headers.

Ngog holds the ball up well and often brings others into play but for me offers little in terms of goal threat when in and around the box, Klasnic is our best finisher but does bugger all else and Sordell, well who knows what this guy will be like as I don't think we will ever play to his strengths to find out how good he is until Davies and Klasnic have gone.

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