Thank God For The Tories

It's time for the second coming. 

Natasha Whittam wrote:Xmiles will be crying in his cornflakes this morning. The Tories have taken the Copeland by-election, an area Labour held for 80 years.

Is this proof that, despite all the Tory-bashing of recent months, when people get in the booth they know there is really only one party to vote for?

And on another slant, the good burghers of Stoke, the denizens of Brexit have actually elected a devout "Remainer" which goes to show the correlation between gold, turds and red rosettes.

Norpig wrote:The problem is Jezza is unelectable to anyone outside his own followers, even most of the party don't back him. He has to go if Labour are ever going to get back to being a credible alternative

I think the damage is too deep now, and a change in leadership wont turn around the party's fortunes. At least not for some years. Fortunately for Labour, there isn't a really credible challenger to them at the moment, so they can afford to languish just a little bit longer, whilst they sort themselves out.

Leader wanted.

No Socialist need apply.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Xmiles will be crying in his cornflakes this morning. The Tories have taken the Copeland by-election, an area Labour held for 80 years.

Is this proof that, despite all the Tory-bashing of recent months, when people get in the booth they know there is really only one party to vote for?

Yes I'm baffled as to why people think the Tories would piss on them if they were on fire let alone vote for them.

As for Labour, Norpig sums it up perfectly.

xmiles wrote:Yes I'm baffled as to why people think the Tories would piss on them if they were on fire let alone vote for them.

Have you ever considered you might be the baffling one? Reach out to friends and family for honest answers.

Pre election betting favoured either UKIP or the Tories to take Copeland so it's no surprise to anyone. Apart from Jeremy Corbyn who insists it was not his fault and that he won't be standing down.
Betfair now have him at 1/3 to resign before the general election. Personally I don't think they'll ever manage to prise his gnarled fingers off the steering wheel let alone expect him to go voluntarily.

In other news, the UKIP leader lost again. 
Is that news really?

Troubling times  for Labour.

Unfortunately,'electability' means another Blair clone.

boltonbonce wrote:Troubling times  for Labour.

Unfortunately,'electability' means another Blair clone.

It's a sad indictment of the times we live in that to increase the chances of success, personality carries more weight than policy, and media experience more weight than moral compass.

It might seem harsh to say it but Corbyn is just too ugly to succeed.

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Troubling times  for Labour.

Unfortunately,'electability' means another Blair clone.

It's a sad indictment of the times we live in that to increase the chances of success, personality carries more weight than policy, and media experience more weight than moral compass.

It might seem harsh to say it but Corbyn is just too ugly to succeed.

That's what they said to Nat,but she pulled it off.

And she'll be pulling it off for many years to come.

boltonbonce wrote:That's what they said to Nat,but she pulled it off.

And she'll be pulling it off for many years to come.

When I finally get my knickers back I'll be going out to find a hitman.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:That's what they said to Nat,but she pulled it off.

And she'll be pulling it off for many years to come.

When I finally get my knickers back I'll be going out to find a hitman.

Going out without your knickers on doesn't normally bother you.

where are the dogging spots in Preston by the way? A friend of mine wants to know

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Troubling times  for Labour.

Unfortunately,'electability' means another Blair clone.

It's a sad indictment of the times we live in that to increase the chances of success, personality carries more weight than policy, and media experience more weight than moral compass.

It might seem harsh to say it but Corbyn is just too ugly to succeed.

I don't think it is his looks that is the problem. It is that he really has no idea of how to appeal to anybody other than his fanbase. He is incapable of leadership and seems unable to seize upon the crisis in funding for the NHS and social care as a means of credibly attacking the Tories. Plus the fact that he consistently ignored the party whip for years makes it difficult for him to criticise others who now ignore him. And finally he is not a man of principle - he clearly wanted brexit and nothing he has done since suggests otherwise.

We now have the ultimate irony of a PM who opposed brexit taking us into a hard brexit opposed by a man who claims to have voted remain whilst obviously wanting us to leave.

xmiles wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Troubling times  for Labour.

Unfortunately,'electability' means another Blair clone.

It's a sad indictment of the times we live in that to increase the chances of success, personality carries more weight than policy, and media experience more weight than moral compass.

It might seem harsh to say it but Corbyn is just too ugly to succeed.

I don't think it is his looks that is the problem. It is that he really has no idea of how to appeal to anybody other than his fanbase. He is incapable of leadership and seems unable to seize upon the crisis in funding for the NHS and social care as a means of credibly attacking the Tories. Plus the fact that he consistently ignored the party whip for years makes it difficult for him to criticise others who now ignore him. And finally he is not a man of principle - he clearly wanted brexit and nothing he has done since suggests otherwise.

We now have the ultimate irony of a PM who opposed brexit taking us into a hard brexit opposed by a man who claims to have voted remain whilst obviously wanting us to leave.

No - he really isn't a very attractive character and not very media friendly.

Has Kevin Spacey got a British passport yet?

Even Lex Luthor is a better proposition.....

Correct this says nothing about the Tories and every thing about the abject state of the labour party.

I am a member of the Labour party however until JC Fooks off labour will not only fail to be in government, they will fail to be her majesty's opposition, now that breaks my heart.

Verbal would walk it.

Now, more than ever, the country needs a credible opposition to hold government to account and provide a balance. Sadly, all other parties are in disarray. Turnout in elections will plummet.

On the day that the Chancellor pulls one of the biggest U turns in political history after threats from his own party lead him to announce that the increase in Class 4 NI for the self-employed announced in last week's budget would not go ahead, the ONS released it's latest employment figures (thought to be up) and wage level increases (thought to be down)

Looks like the economic forecasts for Brexit are starting to come true i.e. inflation and prices will rise whilst wages freeze leading to a high employment low income society. The LGA writes that public sector pay will be frozen until the end of the decade at least. Sorry Norpig.

If the Tories get their way, Mr Pig will find himself working in the private sector soon.

(Same job and location, just a new contract with a new employer with a snazzy name.)