Abortion

Angry Dad wrote:There is no excuse for a human to kill another,we do not have that right.

What about places like Dignitas? Surely people who are terminally and in severe pain should have the right to choose their own dying ?

If I had Alzheimers disease and I was becoming a burden on my family I would much rather be given a lethal injection and die with dignity surrounded by my loved ones, than put my nearest and dearest through a living hell.

Angry Dad wrote:

largehat wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:Life begins at fertilization, from that moment it becomes a highly organized being. It is a living thing, it is human, to abort it is to kill it and thats murder, and to murder your own child is evil beyond belief.

How about if the child will have no quality of life due to serious disabilities?

Do you feel the same about euthanasia, ie when someone ends the suffering of a loved one who is terminally ill?

There is no excuse for a human to kill another,we do not have that right.

Do you think people have the right to commit suicide?

I see no issue with abortion so long as it's done early and for the right reasons. My mate got his girlfriend pregnant at 18 both about to go to uni, so got an abortion. It was done quickly and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with that. They weren't ready, would it of been fair to the kid? A reason like getting into your wedding dress on the other hand is pretty shit.

I agree with euthanasia 100%, sometimes people just have no quality of life, and should be allowed to make a final choice. I've seen Alzheimer's and if I was ever to develop it, I'd choose death before forgetting the faces of my family and having to have somebody wipe my arse for me. I can't believe anybody could oppose it to be honest, we put dogs down if they're going to suffer, we should be able to do the same.

xmiles wrote:

Do you think people have the right to commit suicide?

Currently there is no law against committing suicide in the UK. Perhaps the EU Law Lords should introduce a law making it an offence. That way, those persons who attempted suicide but failed could be banged up in prison out of harms way.

I don't think that sweeping gender-based generalisations help. Only the people involved know the circumstances including how/why it happened, the nature of their relationship and their willingness and capability of bringing up the child if they go through with the birth. Every case is different and shouldn't be judged on the basis of speculation just because some other stupid twat in the media did something wrong.

Not all men are bastards and not all women are slags and it's just wrong to even imply it.

But the fact is that pro-choice is about having the option to choose the appropriate solution for the individual case and "pro-life" is about having no solution - rape being a good example of where a solution is warranted if the victim wants it.

bwfc1874 wrote: I can't believe anybody could oppose it to be honest, we put dogs down if they're going to suffer, we should be able to do the same.

Exactly. We would put down a sick animal on humanitarian grounds but a human being has to suffer with terminal cancer and if the family end the sufferers misery they are prosecuted. What a stupid bloody world we live in.

That way, those persons who attempted suicide but failed could be banged up in prison out of harms way.

Don't think getting locked in prison would help somebody who wants to kill themselves, they need help.

bwfc1874 wrote:I see no issue with abortion so long as it's done early and for the right reasons. My mate got his girlfriend pregnant at 18 both about to go to uni, so got an abortion. It was done quickly and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with that. They weren't ready, would it of been fair to the kid? A reason like getting into your wedding dress on the other hand is pretty shit.

So you rightly think it's wrong to have an abortion to fit into a wedding dress, but see no wrong in your stupid mate and his girlfriend having a termination because it interfered with their education? They are exactly the same you dumbo.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Don't think getting locked in prison would help somebody who wants to kill themselves, they need help.

Most of the modern day prisons have hospitals within the grounds with 24 hour psychiatric care. It's how they have managed to keep that bastard Ian Brady alive all these years.

Well ones an education which will lead to them getting a successful career in the future and ones a dress. They're not the same in any world you moron.

Not to mention the fact that the woman with the dress was about to get married a normal time to have kids, my mates had only been dating a month it's up to them if they decide to keep it, not up to idiots like you to take the moral high ground. You have your beliefs others have their own.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:I see no issue with abortion so long as it's done early and for the right reasons. My mate got his girlfriend pregnant at 18 both about to go to uni, so got an abortion. It was done quickly and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with that. They weren't ready, would it of been fair to the kid? A reason like getting into your wedding dress on the other hand is pretty shit.

So you rightly think it's wrong to have an abortion to fit into a wedding dress, but see no wrong in your stupid mate and his girlfriend having a termination because it interfered with their education? They are exactly the same you dumbo.

no they are not...

they are both morally and circumstantially completely different scenarios.

bwfc1874 wrote:Well ones an education which will lead to them getting a successful career in the future and ones a dress. They're not the same in any world you moron.

Just because you're educated doesn't mean you will go onto great things. Just ask Largehat. They could just as easily end up on the dole living in a Ford Cortina.

The woman chose her dress over her unborn child because it suited her lifestyle. Your mates did exactly the same.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

So you rightly think it's wrong to have an abortion to fit into a wedding dress, but see no wrong in your stupid mate and his girlfriend having a termination because it interfered with their education? They are exactly the same you dumbo.

Natasha, please can you explain how you can be in favour of a one child policy and anti abortion at the same time?

Do you think nobody should have sex unless they are specifically trying to conceive, and then once they've had their one child, never have sex again?

Didn't say it guaranteed success did I? Certainly helps a lot though, particularly as shes done nursing and he's done accounting.

What's your reasons against abortion? Religion? Then your against abortion because of your own lifestyle choice, this country isn't governed by the the words in the bible, so as far as I'm concerned people are free to make their own choices.

largehat wrote:
Natasha, please can you explain how you can be in favour of a one child policy and anti abortion at the same time?

Do you think nobody should have sex unless they are specifically trying to conceive, and then once they've had their one child, never have sex again?

My one child policy statement is purely to save the future of mankind. One day, unfortunately far too late, I will be proven right.

Abortion is more about my religious beliefs. But yes, until a 100% safe contraception pill is on the market people should abstain from sex. People should take responsibility for their actions.

bwfc1874 wrote:Didn't say it guaranteed success did I? Certainly helps a lot though, particularly as shes done nursing and he's done accounting.

Their success is irrelevant (although the world can live without another boring accountant). The fact is they killed a child purely because they were too lazy to get an education and raise a child. Pathetic.

A man and a woman in a loving relationship having sex is the most natural thing in the world.

It just sounds like you need a good seeing-to, Nat. This would take the angst out of your posts.

largehat wrote:A man and a woman in a loving relationship having sex is the most natural thing in the world.

How many people do you know in that kind of relationship?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

largehat wrote:
Natasha, please can you explain how you can be in favour of a one child policy and anti abortion at the same time?

Do you think nobody should have sex unless they are specifically trying to conceive, and then once they've had their one child, never have sex again?

My one child policy statement is purely to save the future of mankind. One day, unfortunately far too late, I will be proven right.

Abortion is more about my religious beliefs. But yes, until a 100% safe contraception pill is on the market people should abstain from sex. People should take responsibility for their actions.

I dont believe for one second your a virgin! your trolling...

I cant imagine David Nugent would have stuck to wanking... he's a footballer, sorry I just cant.